<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715</id><updated>2009-07-02T13:57:34.938-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Adventures In Following Jesus</title><subtitle type='html'>The random thoughts of Adam Ellis on Life, Family, Church, Emerging Culture, Ministry, and Following Jesus.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>298</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-4714068157465329130</id><published>2009-07-02T11:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-02T13:57:34.957-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A Perspective on God’s Mission</title><content type='html'>&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 32px;"&gt; &lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:200%"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count:1"&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;For at least 2/3 of my life, I had an easy answer to the question “What is God’s mission in the world?”&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I thought the answer was obvious.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I honestly can’t remember anyone overtly teaching me the answer I would have given.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It was easily assumed, and commonly held.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;After giving a blank stare and blinking a few times, I would have responded, “Saving souls.”&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If I had been asked to unpack my simple answer, I’d have wondered what rock you had been hiding under, and then said something like: &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;line-height:200%"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;People have an immortal spiritual essence (component) called a “soul”.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Because of the bad choices that all individual humans make, this spiritual essence is bound of an eternity of after-life torment in Hell.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, God has made a way through Jesus for our “souls” to be saved from this fate, and instead experience an afterlife of disembodied bliss in Heaven.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;One need only believe, follow the prescribed “steps” to accept one’s salvation, and stay out of trouble to change their eternal destiny.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That’s all God’s really after in this world.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He wants individuals to agree with the right ideas, and behave themselves, so that their “souls” will have a desirable afterlife. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:200%"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none"&gt;My handy little definition of God’s mission served me well for a while.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The really nice thing was that my main responsibility in regards to the mission was to make sure that I personally agreed with the “right” ideas, followed the “right” steps and reasonably behaved myself so that my fate in the afterlife was secure.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Everything else seemed irrelevant.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Even the idea of somehow participating in God’s mission to others, while a “good” thing to do, was rendered superfluous.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I was oblivious to the more holistic Jewish understanding of a “soul”, and more oblivious to how much the definition that fed my spirit/matter dualism owed to Greek philosophy.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:200%"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count:1"&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;Eventually though, my simple and self-serving definition began to crumble.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Among other things, as a sophomore in college I accompanied my father on a month-long mission trip to Ukraine.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It was a paradigm-shifting, life-altering event that shook me to my core.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Upon my return to the United States, I found my self-absorbed, afterlife-centered faith to be unsustainable, and the anemic, ethereal “god” it served to be unworthy of both worship and devotion.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Unfortunately, both that version of faith and that understanding of God appeared to be prevalent in the church in North America.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I thus came to a fork in the road:&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;one path led away from Christianity and church altogether, and the other was the rocky and dangerous path of an active catalyst for change.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;One was a path of abandonment, while the other was the path of exploration.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I chose the later.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:200%"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count:1"&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;My exploration of Scripture, Theology and history has led me toward a different understanding of God’s mission in the world.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Theology enabled me to begin to see the narrative of scripture as a whole.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;No longer content to mine scripture for propositions and steps, I began to see a thread that ran throughout the entire story.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In the Creation narratives, God tasks the human beings He created with bearing his image to the rest of his creation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Those humans make a selfish choice that throws the harmony of God’s creation into fractured chaos.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Prior to that choice, creation is characterized by perfect harmony; between God and humans, between humans and other humans, and between humans and God’s creation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Human beings were able to find their value from the harmony that characterized their existence.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;After the choice was made, that harmony was shattered in all of its dimensions, and the world became a very different place.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, God would not be undone.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As the world descended into chaos, God called a man we know as Abraham into a special relationship.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Through Abraham, God would bring forth a people for Himself.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;God would bless them, and they would BE a blessing to the nations.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In short, they were to bear God’s image; to reflect who God is.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In spite of their noble calling and miraculous beginning, the people of God tend to be more interested in getting blessed than being a blessing to anyone else.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Things don’t go so well for them in general because they tend to see their election as indicating favored status rather than as a commissioning.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Even so, God does not give up on either his people or his mission in the world. God delivers them again and again, that they might live into their destiny.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Eventually, God acts in a way that defies their imaginations, in order to move beyond the impasse. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;As his people cry out under the iron-fisted oppression of Rome, God became a human being.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The Creator of all that is came into the world as an embryo in the womb of a teenage girl.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Her song in the gospel of Luke, proclaims the redemptive work that she believed was being enacted by this incarnation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;She believed that things were being set right; that the powerful would be torn down from their thrones while the humble are exalted; that the overfed would be left empty while the hungry would have their fill; that God was remembering His people and His promise.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Her son grew into the man we know as Jesus, and powerfully proclaimed and enacted the Good News that God’s Kingdom is at hand; that it is “near”.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He looked forward toward a time when “all things” would be “renewed”.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Eventually, he was executed by the empire and the religious leaders of his own people.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, the grave doesn’t hold him.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Whereas his life modeled the Way God intended His missional people to live, his death and resurrection open the door for all humans to become a part of this missional community, and free them from both the cycle of their sin and the threat of death.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Liberated from guilt and fear, they are thus enabled to partner with God in His mission of the restoration of all things to the harmony that was lost in all of its dimensions.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They are free to join God in reconciling the world to Himself. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;   &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-4714068157465329130?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/4714068157465329130/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=4714068157465329130' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/4714068157465329130'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/4714068157465329130'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/07/perspective-on-gods-mission.html' title='A Perspective on God’s Mission'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-2767329711364142349</id><published>2009-06-29T15:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-06-29T15:47:07.966-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Video:  MPT's "Letter to God"</title><content type='html'>Check out this video of my friend, &lt;a href="http://www.matthewpaulturner.com/"&gt;Matthew Paul Turner&lt;/a&gt;'s "letter to God"&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;object width="400" height="225"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=5378334&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=5378334&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="225"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/5378334"&gt;Matthew Paul Turner-On Questions&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/crosspointchurch"&gt;Cross Point Church&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-2767329711364142349?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/2767329711364142349/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=2767329711364142349' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2767329711364142349'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2767329711364142349'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/06/video-mpts-letter-to-god.html' title='Video:  MPT&apos;s &quot;Letter to God&quot;'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-7626378778198063280</id><published>2009-05-05T08:13:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-05-05T08:13:59.896-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Recommendation:  The Sacredness of Questioning Everything</title><content type='html'>Every once in a while, I encounter a book that breathes life into me  by the way it communicates profound truth.  The interesting thing is that books like this almost always take me by surprise. &lt;a href="http://www.zondervan.com/cultures/en-us/home.htm"&gt;Zondervan&lt;/a&gt; sent me &lt;a href="http://www.davidsarahdark.blogspot.com/"&gt;David Dark&lt;/a&gt;'s new book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310286182?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=adventureinfo-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0310286182"&gt;The Sacredness of Questioning Everything&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=adventureinfo-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0310286182" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /&gt;, with the request that I review it if I liked it.  I had heard of Dark,  but had never read anything by him.  The title intrigued me, so I opened to the table of contents...which intrigued me all the more:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Table of Contents&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1.  Never What You Have In Mind--&lt;i&gt;Questioning God&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2.  The Unbearable Lightness of Being Brainwashed--&lt;i&gt;Questioning Religion&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3.  Everybody to the Limit--&lt;i&gt;Questioning Our Offendedness&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;4.  Spot the Pervert--&lt;i&gt;Questioning our Passions&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;5.  The Power of the Put-On--&lt;i&gt;Questioning Media&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;6.  The Word, The Line, The Way--&lt;i&gt;Questioning Our Language&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;7.  Survival of the Freshest--&lt;i&gt;Questioning Interpretations&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;8.  The Past Didn't Go Anywhere--&lt;i&gt;Questioning History&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;9.  We Do What We're Told--&lt;i&gt;Questioning Governments&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;10. Sincerity As Far As The Eye Can See--&lt;i&gt;Questioning the Future&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;End Note:  That Means To Signal a World Without End&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;That was enough to get me to start reading immediately.  Halfway through the first chapter I was hooked.  Dark artfully articulates faith in the context of what &lt;a href="http://www.newbigin.net/general/biography.cfm"&gt;Lesslie Newbigin&lt;/a&gt; calls "&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802808565?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=adventureinfo-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0802808565"&gt;A Proper Confidence&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=adventureinfo-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=0802808565" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /&gt;"...faith that is not (cannot be) the equivalent of certainty...faith that recognizes our finite nature, our tendency to re-craft God in our own images and religion into self-justifying dogma.  At times, he seems to be virtually channeling &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B8ren_Kierkegaard"&gt;Kierkegaard&lt;/a&gt; in the context of 21st century Western culture.  Dark offers us a thing of beauty, a life-giving breath of fresh air.  His book invites us to take God a lot more seriously by taking ourselves a lot less seriously.  Drawing from diverse voices (from &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo"&gt;Augustine&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquinas"&gt;Aquinas&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/"&gt;Jon Stewart&lt;/a&gt; and&lt;a href="http://www.colbertnation.com/home"&gt; Stephen Colbert&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href="http://www.u2.com/"&gt;U2&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.arcadefire.com/"&gt;Arcade Fire&lt;/a&gt;) and various disciplines (Theology, Philosophy, Literature, Film, Music, etc.), he revives the Biblical tradition of questioning...as an act of humility in the pursuit of truth.  He calls for us to cut through the propaganda, and resist any "powers that be" that would seek to subvert or co-opt the Way of Jesus.  He beckons us to journey down a path that is characterized by faith, hope, and love (rather than certainty).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Pick up this book.  You won't be disappointed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;AE&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-7626378778198063280?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/7626378778198063280/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=7626378778198063280' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/7626378778198063280'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/7626378778198063280'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/05/recommendation-sacredness-of.html' title='Recommendation:  The Sacredness of Questioning Everything'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-946277052940406520</id><published>2009-05-02T19:31:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-05-02T19:33:43.450-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Amen, Methodists.  Thank you.</title><content type='html'>Wow.  Check out this new ad campaign from the United Methodist Church.  Seriously...Wow.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;May more churches, including ours, catch this kind of a vision.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;AE&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0" id="player-single" width="320" height="320"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/mnr_lib/200903/players/player-single.swf?job=38177"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAcess" value="sameDomain"&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="playlistpath=rethinkchurch/38177"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/mnr_lib/200903/players/player-single.swf?job=38177" flashvars="playlistpath=rethinkchurch/38177" quality="high" name="player-single" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" width="320" height="320"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-946277052940406520?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/946277052940406520/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=946277052940406520' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/946277052940406520'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/946277052940406520'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/05/amen-methodists-thank-you.html' title='Amen, Methodists.  Thank you.'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-2034423786028887041</id><published>2009-04-24T06:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-04-24T06:04:25.663-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Memories on our wedding anniversary</title><content type='html'>My amazing wife put together a cool online slideshow of our life together so far.  &lt;a href="http://danaelaineellis.blogspot.com/2009/04/id-love-you-all-over-again.html"&gt;CLICK HERE&lt;/a&gt; if you'd like to watch it...if for no other reason, you might enjoy how dorky I look in the earlier years...and you might enjoy wondering how a girl that beautiful fell for such a dork.  I wonder that myself all the time.&lt;div&gt;AE&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-2034423786028887041?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://danaelaineellis.blogspot.com/2009/04/id-love-you-all-over-again.html' title='Memories on our wedding anniversary'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/2034423786028887041/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=2034423786028887041' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2034423786028887041'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2034423786028887041'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/04/memories-on-our-wedding-anniversary.html' title='Memories on our wedding anniversary'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-624435984782738908</id><published>2009-03-19T06:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T10:31:48.270-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Choosing to Err on the Side of Grace</title><content type='html'>Within the last couple of decades, many in our fellowship began to rediscover the concept of grace.  In my opinion, this was a fascinating and much needed conversation that didn't go far enough.  Many of us moved from a version of Christianity that often devolved into an earned and maintained salvation, to a version of Christianity that received salvation as a gift...that can often devolve into a subculture of entitlement, who's mantra is "I don't have to!"  It never occurred to us that the question we were seeking to answer, might actually be a poorly framed question, suggesting a limited selection of anemic answers.  We didn't notice that we were simply selecting the other side of an inadequate coin.  We focussed on what grace freed us from, but stopped short of exploring what grace freed us "to".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Biblically, grace seems to be a proactive, transformative reality.  It is a gift, but it is a gift that, once received, must be reflected and modeled to the rest of the world.  As &lt;a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/"&gt;Scot McKnight&lt;/a&gt; suggests in his book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OMIBOK?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=adventureinfo-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=B001OMIBOK"&gt;Embracing Grace: A Gospel for All of Us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=adventureinfo-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=B001OMIBOK" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /&gt;, once we embrace grace, we are to become an "embracing" people who exhibit grace toward the other...precisely because it is unmerited.  It is less a benefit for members of a club...and more a new reality that they have bought into.    To accept it for myself and refuse to extend it to others betrays both the gift of grace and the Giver.  Don't just take my word for it, Jesus actually has quite a bit to say about this in the gospels (i.e. his &lt;a href="http://www.zondervanbiblesearch.com/ResultsPassage.aspx?Passage=Matthew+6%3a14-15&amp;amp;SearchBooks=TNIVOTNT&amp;amp;Search=Matthew+6%3a14-15"&gt;comments on forgiveness&lt;/a&gt; after "The Lord's Prayer" and the &lt;a href="http://www.zondervanbiblesearch.com/ResultsPassage.aspx?Passage=Matthew+18%3a21-35&amp;amp;SearchBooks=TNIVOTNT&amp;amp;Search=Matthew+18%3a21-35"&gt;Parable of the Unforgiving Servant&lt;/a&gt;...just for starters)&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It's usually at this point that the fear impulse kicks in.  What if we're wrong?  This is the fear that haunts those raised in our tradition.  Let me clear it up for you.  We are.  We have 3 pound brains and we dare to speak of an infinite God.  When asked if he would fellowship a "brother in error", Fred McClure used to routinely respond "I don't have any other kind.  We're all in error on something."  &lt;a href="http://www.ntwrightpage.com/"&gt;N.T. Wright&lt;/a&gt; regularly begins his lectures by saying something to the effect of "I'm wrong about roughly 1/3 of what I'm telling you.  I just have no idea which 1/3 that is."  And thank God for His grace that washes over sin and "error" as he is actively working to form me into the image of His son... into the future where His dream for me and the world are reality.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Bible is quite &lt;a href="http://www.zondervanbiblesearch.com/ResultsPassage.aspx?Passage=Luke+6%3a37-38&amp;amp;SearchBooks=TNIVOTNT&amp;amp;Search=Luke+6%3a37-38"&gt;clear&lt;/a&gt; that the measure of judgment we apply to others will be applied to us.  While I highly doubt that the Bible's concept of judgment is as equivalent to the American judicial system as we tend to presuppose in these discussions, the implications are hard to miss.  We are going to be wrong about some things, but if, when it comes to judgment, "the measure I use" will be "measured to me", I want to "err" on the side of grace.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;AE&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  line-height: 21px; font-family:Verdana;font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-indent: 28px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-624435984782738908?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://postrestorationist.blogspot.com/2009/03/choosing-to-err-on-side-of-grace.html' title='Choosing to Err on the Side of Grace'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/624435984782738908/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=624435984782738908' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/624435984782738908'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/624435984782738908'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/03/choosing-to-err-on-side-of-grace.html' title='Choosing to Err on the Side of Grace'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-872149417944217304</id><published>2009-03-05T07:54:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2009-03-05T07:59:14.770-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Launching "Post-Restorationist Perspectives"</title><content type='html'>I'd like to announce that I've finally launched the &lt;a href="http://www.postrestorationist.blogspot.com"&gt;Post-Restorationist Perspectives&lt;/a&gt; collaborative blog that I've been talking about since the first of the year.  Several people have already posted.  Also, &lt;a href="http://www.jphilwilson.blogspot.com"&gt;Phil&lt;/a&gt; and I have officially re-launched the &lt;a href="http://www.postrestorationist.podomatic.com"&gt;Post-Restoration Podcast&lt;/a&gt;, and a new episode is available.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This blog will remain somewhat active, but most of my theological stuff will be posted at &lt;a href="http://www.postrestorationist.blogspot.com"&gt;Post-Restorationist Perspectives&lt;/a&gt; from here on out.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;AE&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-872149417944217304?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/872149417944217304/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=872149417944217304' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/872149417944217304'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/872149417944217304'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/03/launching-post-restorationist.html' title='Launching &quot;Post-Restorationist Perspectives&quot;'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-6448155749094237736</id><published>2009-02-06T08:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-02-10T07:50:21.698-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Reflections On Leaving Youth Ministry Part 3</title><content type='html'>For many reasons, including some of the statistics I have already mentioned, many youth ministers can become consumed with a defense-oriented approach.  They believe that "secular culture" is fundamentally opposed to faith... especially as it pertains to teenagers.  Further, they know that on many "secular" college campuses (and even high schools), faith is overtly challenged in the name of "secular science".  Because of these assumptions, many youth ministers adopt a multi-pronged strategy to counter these influences.  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;1)  Alternative Christian Activity--The minister attempts to turn the students' attention to "christian alternatives" of all of the things that can be so attractive in "secular culture".  Teens like parties...so we throw "safe" social gatherings like all night "lock-ins" and "fifth quarters" after the local high school's football game.  Some go so far as to throw alternative banquets for Christian students to attend in lieu of their prom or homecoming dances.  Additionally, the youth minister knows that simple idle time can be filled with the pervasive influence of this alluring secular culture... so we attempt to counter with a flood of our own safe, "Christian" activity.  Keep them busy in our sanctioned and sanitized activity, and they'll "keep the faith", or so goes the conventional wisdom of youth ministry.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2)  Alternative Christian Media--The minister attempts to turn the students' attention to positive music, movies, etc. produced by Christian artists and Christian companies.  Special attention is payed to the details...emulating particular musical styles, and even in some cases going to great pains to emulate a particular band or artist.  The idea is to isolate our students from the negative influence of all of that "worldly" entertainment, and intentionally surrounding them with the positive influence of media that knocks-off the worldly stuff in terms of style, while retaining control of content.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3)  Alternative Answers to "Secular Science"--The assumption has generally been that since "the world" will be asking really tough questions of faith, we had better develop concrete arguments to refute the questions and claims of science.  In many cases, much energy is put into the development, propagation, and indoctrination of these "answers", with the added implication that no ground can be surrendered or faith is no longer viable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As common as it is, there are many problems with such an approach.  First of all, the assumptions that support it are faulty.  If Christianity is actually based on the Way of Jesus (as told in Scripture) then we would do well to note Jesus' engagement with his culture.  As counter-intuitive as it seems to us, God seems to have sent his "only-begotton Son" because he loved the "world".  Jesus' primary engagement seems to have been to those who the religious looked down on.  To Him, they seemed to be very much the point.  His engagement with the religious people seems to have been primarily to challenge them to become more than they had settled for and to engage with God's mission.   In short, isolating students from the world around them in the name of Christianity is as antithetical to the Gospel of Jesus as it is ineffective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Students do not need a standardized set of answers and counter-arguments to the questions of secular science.  Frankly, a)  the scientific community remains unconvinced and unimpressed, b) it serves to maintain both a dualistic worldview and a false perception that there is an either/or choice that must be made between faith and science or, on the other side of the same coin, that all things pertaining to faith must be explained in scientific terms...c)  a casual study of history will show how the church's assumption that new scientific revelations were threats to faith has frequently led to our looking silly at best, and being brutally un-christlike at worst...d) when we promote the idea that this is an all or nothing choice, frequently our students actually get this message, and choose to abandon faith when the fallible extra-biblical systems and constructs we handed them begin to prove inadequate...and e)  Frankly we are pouring our energy into answering questions that fewer and fewer people are even asking...and debating strawmen that no one is arguing anymore (particularly at the quantum level, science can be very friendly to faith again, as it turns out).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In truth, I suspect that on the intellectual level, the pressing questions that must be engaged are coming from the social sciences and philosophy, and that what students actually need is to learn how to use the narrative of scripture as an interpretive lens...that we must teach them to interpret and engage the world around them in light of Jesus.  Even so, there is a much larger problem. All of this presumes that faith is primarily intellectual and taylored exclusively to the individual.  It seems to me that faith is inherently relational and missional.  In scripture, faith is spoken of primarily in relational terms...both in relationship to God and in community.  Most of the New Testament letters are addressed to communities of believers, and most of the "you" pronouns are plural.  We must figure out ways to help students cultivate community, rather than sending them out "against the world".  However, this is not to suggest a bunker mentality.  They are to cultivate community that actively seeks to partner with God in what he is doing in the world.  We tend to talk about "faith" as if "having faith" is a matter of mentally agreeing with a list of concepts.  What a bizarre definition!  Faith has to do with confidence.  Faith leads to proactive engagement.  I think that character and mission may be the most powerful apologetics of faith, for good or ill.  If we neglect these for the sake of intellectual coercion and defending the "rightness" of our arguments, we may find that we have lost everything we were trying to protect and ensure.  If we settle for creating a bunker-mentality subculture rather than cultivating a life-giving journey of proactive engagement, we may find that many of our students leave us precisely because they are seeking Jesus, and can't reconcile his mission to the world in scripture with ours.&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-6448155749094237736?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/6448155749094237736/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=6448155749094237736' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/6448155749094237736'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/6448155749094237736'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/02/reflections-on-leaving-youth-ministry.html' title='Reflections On Leaving Youth Ministry Part 3'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-3159007770876882907</id><published>2009-01-26T08:06:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-01-26T09:07:00.324-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Reflections On Leaving Youth Ministry 2</title><content type='html'>Effective Youth Ministry will work with the desired end result in mind.  This sounds very intuitive and one might wonder who could possibly disagree with such a notion.  The truth is, that most of us would...if not with our words, then in practice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is an extraordinary temptation in professional youth ministry to cater to the pressures of the moment and the perceived needs of those we work with (parents included).  These pressures combined with our culture's pervasive consumerism subtly but surely lures us towards an "attractional" model of youth ministry.  We build youth ministry around events...events that will draw a crowd...events that center around the dynamic personality of our youth minister...events with lots of bells and whistles...events that serve as exciting and interesting alternatives to what "the world" is offering.  This is precisely our downfall.  We instill a version of "faith" that is dependent on the constant flow of these activities, events, personalities, "bells" and "whistles".  In short, it is unsustainable by its very nature.  It isn't true to the complexities of life.  It doesn't prepare them for the isolation they may face or the painful questions they WILL face.  It doesn't challenge them to be more than they are, or call them to something greater than themselves.  Instead, it markets one more product (albeit a religious product) for them to consume.  Of course it fails for the vast majority of them when they graduate and the personality (youth minister) of the is gone, the activities/programs are gone, and they are left with "just church".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What would it look like to develop intentional ways of cultivating a sustainable faith?  How can we design approaches that begin with such an end in mind?  I have some ideas and opinions about what that could look like, but they would be limited to my context and experience.  These questions are yours to answer, but I'll argue that if you are going to "do" youth ministry, they are questions you must wrestle with if your ministry is to be in any sense "effective".&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;br /&gt;(to be continued)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-3159007770876882907?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/3159007770876882907/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=3159007770876882907' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/3159007770876882907'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/3159007770876882907'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/01/reflections-on-leaving-youth-ministry-2.html' title='Reflections On Leaving Youth Ministry 2'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-2656225725080164215</id><published>2009-01-13T06:06:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-01-23T08:40:25.613-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Reflections on Leaving Youth Ministry 1</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;So, I know I'm late with these promised blog posts, but I honestly haven't been slacking on it.  In actuality, I've already written two posts...and deleted both of them.  The first post was frankly too emotional and dealt with frustrations that I had apparently not even processed yet (they sort of came to the surface as I wrote).  After I finished it, I re-read it and asked Dana to read it.  She confirmed what I was already thinking:  it was very therapeutic for me, but frankly wouldn't be helpful to anyone else.  In my second attempt, I tried to write a "What your youth minister wishes you knew" post.  It really just didn't work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So here's the thing...youth ministry is in trouble.  For all the attention and resources devoted to youth ministry, the "retention" stats are abysmal.   Roughly 75% of teens abandon their faith between high school graduation and College.  (oddly enough, smaller churches with no organized youth ministry tend to have roughly a 75% retention rate)  Those stats are actually pretty well known.  Many people aren't aware of the fact that youth ministers are also burning out at an alarming rate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could lob out criticism about all of the problems in our current approach to youth ministry.  However, I think it would be more helpful to simply propose some ideas about potential ways forward.  Watch for my totally subjective thoughts on this next week.&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-2656225725080164215?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/2656225725080164215/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=2656225725080164215' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2656225725080164215'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2656225725080164215'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/01/reflections-on-leaving-youth-ministry-1.html' title='Reflections on Leaving Youth Ministry 1'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-1289950321227505493</id><published>2009-01-12T08:29:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-01-15T11:10:59.831-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Reflections on Leaving Youth Ministry:  Introduction</title><content type='html'>I am currently working as a preaching minister, though I was a youth minister for roughly 10 years.  When I first got into youth ministry (which is another story altogether), I passionately refuted any suggestions that youth ministry was some sort of a "stepping stone" to becoming a preacher.  I sincerely believed that I would do youth ministry forever.  While I still disagree with a perspective that relegates youth ministry to a mere rung on the ministry "success ladder", after 10 years I felt a pull towards preaching that eventually led to my career move last May.  I loved youth ministry and still have a deep and abiding respect for anyone who sincerely engages in the Spiritual formation of teenagers.  However, I am now roughly 7 months removed that particular vocation, and I'd like to offer a few admittedly subjective observations about the current state of youth ministry, for whatever they are worth.  Over the next several days, I'll present a series of posts along these lines.  If you think I'm wrong on any of these observations, you may very well be right, and I have no particular interest a debate (though you should feel free to comment, and I'm always up for dialogue).  I'll post the first observation soon.&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note:  I had originally thought I would not post anything new on this blog after this series is completed.  However, I have since reconsidered, and decided to keep this blog as a place to write about my life and family.  I will also be launching a new blog that will focus on theology, and I'm planning on inviting several other bloggers who resonate with a "Post-Restorationist" ideology to come on as co-authors.  I'll post a link to the new site at the end of this series.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-1289950321227505493?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/1289950321227505493/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=1289950321227505493' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/1289950321227505493'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/1289950321227505493'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2009/01/reflections-on-leaving-youth-ministry.html' title='Reflections on Leaving Youth Ministry:  Introduction'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-2253040862053081451</id><published>2008-12-23T10:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-23T11:01:52.579-08:00</updated><title type='text'>As One Blog Ends...A New One Begins</title><content type='html'>I've been a very inconsistent blogger for the last several months.  Its sort of odd because there are lots of things that I want to write about, and in many ways, my current job is more conducive to such writing than youth ministry was.  I think, to me, this blog is representative of a period in my life that has passed.  It may seem silly, but I plan to launch a new blog in early January which I will announce and link here.   I do plan on writing one final post on this site, which I will call "Reflections on Leaving Youth Ministry", which should be up in early January.  I will leave this blog up as an archive, but I do not plan on posting much here after the new one is live.  If you have journeyed with me here these past several years, I thank you for your attention and comments.  Please come to the new blog once it is live.  I plan on posting on a much more consistent basis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;P.S.  After a very long hiatus, &lt;a href="http://www.jphilwilson.blogspot.com"&gt;Phil Wilson&lt;/a&gt; and I are also bringing back the Post-Restorationist Podcast in January.  I'll provide links once that is live as well.  Please come join the conversation.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-2253040862053081451?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/2253040862053081451/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=2253040862053081451' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2253040862053081451'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2253040862053081451'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/12/as-one-blog-endsa-new-one-begins.html' title='As One Blog Ends...A New One Begins'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-3102314533528807771</id><published>2008-12-15T10:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-15T11:12:17.907-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Book Recommendation:  Churched by Matthew Paul Turner</title><content type='html'>What happens to a kid who grows up in a fundamentalist church when he or she rejects fundamentalism?  Many times, because they "got" the message that fundamentalism is the only "true" Christianity, they wind up rejecting Christianity/religion as a whole.  However, sometimes, some people find a path through this forest of legalism, conspiracy theories, and isolated subculture to Jesus...or maybe Jesus finds them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such is the case for my friend &lt;a href="http://www.matthewpaulturner.com/"&gt;Matthew Paul Turner&lt;/a&gt;.  In his book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400074711?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=adventureinfo-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1400074711"&gt;Churched: One Kid's Journey Toward God Despite a Holy Mess&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=adventureinfo-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1400074711" alt="" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important; display: none;" border="0" height="1" width="1" /&gt;, Matthew recounts his journey of faith through fundamentalism.  The narrative that Turner offers is equal parts memoir and satire.  Though it could have easily devolved into a bitter rant decrying his upbringing, Matthew succeeds in virtually channeling himself as a child.  As such, his story reads with a nostalgic sweetness that brings both laughter and tears.  Churched is genuinely funny, and at times quite poiniant.  Many readers will find the experience similar to a kind of group therapy...as they learn to laugh at their own stories too.  Far from demonizing the "characters" in his story, Matthew excels at revealing their humanity and sincerity.  As hilarious as the stories of his Sunday School Teacher's lesson on manna or his childhood pastor's "boxing match with Satan" are, you get the sense that Matthew also finds a way to honor and respect them.  Though it is never explicit, you can clearly see the bruises and scars that Matthew carries and how he has wrestled to find a way to believe.  In the end, the implicit main character of this memoir is not Matthew himself, but rather the Savior that he loves who shines through all of the craziness and has led Matthew to a genuine faith that is characterized by hope and love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I simply cannot recommend this book highly enough.  Even if you didn't grow up in a fundamentalist church or subculture, I think you may find surprising resonance and inspiration.&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=adventureinfo-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=8&amp;amp;l=as1&amp;amp;asins=1400074711&amp;amp;fc1=000000&amp;amp;IS2=1&amp;amp;lt1=_blank&amp;amp;m=amazon&amp;amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;amp;bc1=000000&amp;amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;amp;f=ifr" style="width: 120px; height: 240px; display: none;" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-3102314533528807771?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/3102314533528807771/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=3102314533528807771' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/3102314533528807771'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/3102314533528807771'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/12/book-recommendation-churched-by-matthew.html' title='Book Recommendation:  Churched by Matthew Paul Turner'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-424009941875986611</id><published>2008-12-02T05:10:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-02T05:13:00.361-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Quoting Theology, Christmas Edition:  N.T. Wright</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"...And remember the story of the shepherds and the manger. We are so used to hearing about it – indeed, most of us never use the word ‘manger’ in any other context – that we often forget the point. The shepherds were told something – or thought they were told something – quite ridiculous: that God’s Messiah, God’s only Son, had been born just up the road. Now how on earth are you supposed to believe that? And what on earth could you do about it? Ah, but they were given a sign: you don’t normally find babies in feeding-troughs, but that’s where this one is. And so they went, and they saw, and they believed, and they worshipped. What’s the equivalent for us today? Well, when you worship the Christ-child for yourself, and learn to open your eyes to the empires and your ears to the angels, you may well wonder whether there’s any point in even trying to do anything about it all. It all seems quite ridiculous. And then you may begin to notice places where there are, so to speak, babies in mangers: places where God seems to have been startlingly at work, in a hospice or a prison or a day-care centre or a play-group, in Bible Study groups, in gospel work going forwards among drug addicts and prostitutes, in campaigns about debt and unjust laws and fair trade, whatever it may be. And then: watch for the empires, listen for the angels, worship the Christ-child – and go for it. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and his kingdom shall be established with justice and righteousness from this time forth and for evermore."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;--&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;N.T. Wright&lt;/span&gt;, from his sermon entitled, "&lt;a href="http://www.ntwrightpage.com/sermons/ChristmasEve06.htm"&gt;Emperors and Angels&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-424009941875986611?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/424009941875986611/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=424009941875986611' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/424009941875986611'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/424009941875986611'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/12/quoting-theology-christmas-edition-nt.html' title='Quoting Theology, Christmas Edition:  N.T. Wright'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-7296893079564989499</id><published>2008-11-20T14:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-21T04:44:43.494-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Book Review:  The Faith of Barack Obama</title><content type='html'>In this short, accessible book, &lt;a href="http://www.thomasnelson.com/consumer/authordetail.asp?creatorid=3013"&gt;Stephen Mansfield&lt;/a&gt; explores the religious beliefs, commitments and convictions of &lt;a href="http://www.barackobama.com/splash/aid_cali.html"&gt;Barack Obama&lt;/a&gt;.  Additionally, Mansfield supplies a short Spiritual biography for Obama and explores the theology that underlies his faith.  Some might assume that Mansfield’s book is an attempt to “Christianize” Obama in order to make him more palatable to Evangelicals.  Others might assume that it is a thinly disguised hatchet-job expose’, written with the intention of showing Obama’s supposed Christianity to be a politically expedient prop.  Both of these assumptions are incorrect.  For starters, Mansfield is also the author of “&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1591854709"&gt;The Faith of George W. Bush&lt;/a&gt;”, and “&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1585424935"&gt;The Faith of the American Soldier&lt;/a&gt;”.  He approaches the subject as an investigative journalist, with neither rose-colored glasses or an ax to grind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mansfield offers us profiles of both Barack Obama and his controversial former pastor Jeremiah Wright.  In this context, he also offers a brief, but accurate explanation of “Black Theology”.  Mansfield has also really done his homework here, as he correctly points to the influential work of &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/11232007/watch.html"&gt;James Cone&lt;/a&gt;.  Crucial to this theological perspective is the recognition that the Bible is primarily written by oppressed people to/for oppressed people.  The assumption is that the experience of African Americans, with their history of slavery and oppression, are in a unique position to hear and understand the message of Scripture.  Thus, a major focus of this theology is justice (with all of its social implications) for the poor and the oppressed.  Even a casual reading of the Prophets, and the words of Jesus will prevent you from simply dismissing such a reading as completely ridiculous.  This is the theological framework that underlies both Wright’s comments and Obama’s application and understanding of Christianity.  While Wright is apparently a bit of an attention junkie, and I still find his comments to be inappropriate, the proper theological context certainly casts all of this in a somewhat different light.  Mansfield also gives an insightful account of actually attending a service at &lt;a href="http://www.tucc.org/"&gt;Trinity United Church of Christ&lt;/a&gt;, which in some ways defied his expectations.  As an interesting exercise in contrast and comparison, Mansfield offers one chapter comprised of short spiritual biographies/profiles of John McCain, Hillary Clinton and George W. Bush.  Some may see this chapter as extraneous, but others may find the thought exercise helpful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mansfield does not shy away from posing difficult questions for Obama, particularly when it comes to difficult issues such as his position on the question of abortion.  He examines several areas of Obama’s faith and its application that may be at least uncomfortable for may Evangelical Christians.  However, he does not succumb to “Secret Muslim” conspiracy theories or wild sensationalism.  His investigation is fair, and leaves it to the reader to make his or her own decisions and evaluations based on a reasonably non-biased and accurate account of Obama’s apparently sincere faith. Some Christians may find their fears or misconceptions dispelled.  Others may be deeply troubled by what they read.  However you react, you will at least be making an evaluation from a place of understanding rather than speculation or unsubstantiated rumor.&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thomasnelson.com/consumer/custom/top20/The_Faith_of_Barack_Obama.asp"&gt;CLICK HERE&lt;/a&gt; to go to Thomas Nelson's Page for this book.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-7296893079564989499?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/7296893079564989499/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=7296893079564989499' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/7296893079564989499'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/7296893079564989499'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/11/book-review-faith-of-barack-obama.html' title='Book Review:  The Faith of Barack Obama'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-1915224963627720699</id><published>2008-11-13T12:01:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-13T12:02:16.415-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Children, Mustard Seeds, &amp; The Kingdom of God</title><content type='html'>A couple of years ago, I was at the library with Dana and our oldest daughter, Emma. As we were walking back to the car, Emma suddenly bolted down a cement staircase right outside the library doors, which seemed to go down into an unused area of dirt and rather pathetic looking bushes. I started to say something to stop her, but then I noticed that she was picking up trash. I turned to Dana (who had also bent down to pick up some trash while I wasn't looking), and asked what she was doing. Dana said, "We always do that. People always throw trash down there and Emma likes to clean it up." Emma came back up the steps and started putting the trash in the trash can (which, incidentally, was approximately 5 feet from the stairwell, .) Fearing that I had a developing Adrian Monk on my hands I asked her why she picked up the trash. My (then) four-year-old daughter looked back at me with a mischievous grin (like she was inviting me into some kind of conspiracy), and said, "I'm making the world a better place, Daddy."  I just stood there stunned until I was able to swallow the lump in my throat.  Then, I walked down the steps, grabbed some trash and threw it in the garbage on my way to hug my smiling little girl.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don't get me wrong.  There was still a lot of trash at the bottom of those stairs.  She couldn't possibly clean it all up herself.  Even if she could have...even if the 3 of us had talked a group of people into helping us clean up that spot of ground...the world would still be a mess.  I realize that there are bigger problems in the world than people who throw garbage on God's creation because it was too difficult to walk the extra 4 steps to the garbage can.  But that's the trick, isn't it?  We skip the little problems because, in our view they pale in comparison to the big problems.  At the same time, we don't engage the big problems because we know they are  far to large for individuals like us to have any kind of significant impact.  The problem is, that every time I start to play that little justification game with myself about the issues in front of me, whether they are "too big" or "two small", I remember Emma's mischievous little grin and her conspiracy to "make the world a better place".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remember Jesus saying:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then, his words wash over me again:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field.  Though it is the smallest of all your seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and perch in its branches.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am reminded that this is how the Kingdom of God breaks through...a conspiracy of childlike mischievous grins, defiantly planting mustard seeds of hope in a world that often appears to be littered with despair, injustice and hopelessness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As we walked back to our car that afternoon, I silently prayed, "Dear God, please help me be like Emma. Thank you for Dana, who is teaching her to be like you."&lt;br /&gt;-Adam&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-1915224963627720699?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/1915224963627720699/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=1915224963627720699' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/1915224963627720699'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/1915224963627720699'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/11/children-mustard-seeds-kingdom-of-god.html' title='Children, Mustard Seeds, &amp; The Kingdom of God'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-7763698564147364479</id><published>2008-11-05T05:41:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-05T08:15:43.468-08:00</updated><title type='text'>2 Great Speeches and the end of the Election</title><content type='html'>I watched 2 great speeches last night.  I am well aware that opinions are very divided on this election, particularly among Christians, but I must say that both speeches were inspiring to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain was gracious, noble and honorable.  His plea for unity and his pledge to help (an offer I sincerely hope Obama considers, as a means toward unity) displayed character.  His heartfelt comments about Obama's grandmother were touching.  Thank you for the way you handled this John McCain.  May your supporters display the same grace and character.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1NERncNfaYw&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1NERncNfaYw&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;hr&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barack Obama's speech was inspiring.  As someone who speaks for a living, I was impressed by the delivery.  I was further impressed by the absence of gloating.  Obama displayed character in his comments about John McCain and Sarah Palin.  I was further impressed by his plea for unity and his insistence that, though a segment of the population didn't vote for him, he intended to be their president too and he was listening. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe height="339" width="425" src="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/27546437#27546437" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;hr&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was also impressed by the way that President Bush congratulated President Elect Obama and called our country to unite. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe height="339" width="425" src="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/27555201#27555201" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;hr&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The call to unity is refreshing after such a bitterly divided political season.  May we heed it in prayer, while at the same time we remember that our &lt;a href="https://www.noisetrade.com/derekwebb#"&gt;"first allegiance is not to a flag, a country, or a man.  Our first allegiance is not to democracy or blood.  Its to a King and a Kingdom."&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-7763698564147364479?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/7763698564147364479/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=7763698564147364479' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/7763698564147364479'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/7763698564147364479'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/11/2-great-speeches-and-end-of-election.html' title='2 Great Speeches and the end of the Election'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-1850835670599979650</id><published>2008-11-04T08:27:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-04T08:32:07.970-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Live Election Results</title><content type='html'>This gadget I'm embedding from Google Maps should track the presidential election results live.  I'm really interested to see how it turns out, but I"m also ready for this to be behind us.&lt;br /&gt;I should get back to blogging next week.  I have a few theological thoughts I'd like to flesh out here and a few book reviews/recomendations I'd like to post. Until then...enjoy!&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;script src="http://www.gmodules.com/ig/ifr?url=http://general-election-2008.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/results-gadget.xml&amp;amp;up_state=us&amp;amp;up_race=President&amp;amp;up_countdown=1&amp;amp;synd=open&amp;amp;w=520&amp;amp;h=380&amp;amp;title=2008+Election+Results+from+Google&amp;amp;lang=all&amp;amp;country=ALL&amp;amp;border=%23ffffff%7C1px%2C1px+solid+black%7C1px%2C1px+solid+black%7C0px%2C1px+black&amp;amp;output=js"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-1850835670599979650?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/1850835670599979650/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=1850835670599979650' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/1850835670599979650'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/1850835670599979650'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/11/live-election-results.html' title='Live Election Results'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-4728093886585939584</id><published>2008-10-16T06:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-16T06:58:05.901-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Final Presidential Debate Video and Factcheck Info</title><content type='html'>&lt;center&gt;&lt;object height="296" width="512"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.hulu.com/embed/2XRN_mQPtXSljKNzYcNCpA"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.hulu.com/embed/2XRN_mQPtXSljKNzYcNCpA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" height="296" width="512"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As promised, here is the factcheck info from &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/"&gt;www.factcheck.org&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;embed src="http://blip.tv/play/4DrTz0GHo0E" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="549" height="396" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt; &lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="article_section_header"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Summary&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_section"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Spin and hype were apparent, once again, at the third and final debate between McCain and Obama:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;McCain claimed the liberal group ACORN “is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history ... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;maybe destroying the fabric of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;democracy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;.” In fact, a Republican prosecutor said of the first and biggest ACORN fraud case: “[T]his scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting.” He said $8-an-hour workers turned in made-up voter registration forms rather than doing what ACORN paid them to do.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; McCain said “Joe the plumber” faced “much higher taxes” under Obama’s tax plan and would pay a fine under Obama’s health care plan if he failed to provide coverage for his workers. But Ohio plumber Joe Wurzelbacher would pay higher taxes only if the business he says he wants to buy puts his income over $200,000 a year, and his small business would be exempt from Obama’s requirement to provide coverage for workers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Obama repeated a dubious claim that his health care plan will cut the average family’s premiums by $2,500 a year. Experts have found that figure to be overly optimistic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;McCain claimed that Obama’s real “object” is a government-run, single-payer health insurance system like those in Canada or England. The McCain campaign points to a quote from five years ago, when Obama told a labor gathering that he was “a proponent of a single-payer health care program.” But Obama has since qualified his enthusiasm for Canadian-style health care, and his current proposal is nothing like that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Obama incorrectly claimed all of McCain’s ads had been “negative.” That was true for one recent week, but not over the entire campaign. And at times Obama has run a higher percentage of attack ads than McCain.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;McCain described Colombia as the "largest agricultural importer of our products." Actually, Canada imports the most U.S. farm products, and Colombia is far down the list.&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Obama strained to portray himself as willing to break ranks with fellow Democrats. His prime example was his vote for a bill that was supported by 18 Democrats and opposed by 26. Congressional Quarterly rates him as voting with his party 97 percent of the time since becoming a U.S. senator.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;For details on these and other misleading claims, please read on to the Analysis section.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_section_header"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Analysis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_section"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama met for their final debate Oct. 15. The face-to-face was held at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y., and was moderated by CBS News' Bob Schieffer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;ACORN and Vote Fraud&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain made some dire claims about a liberal group he said was out to steal the election:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; We need to know the full extent of Sen. Obama's relationship with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;ACORN, who is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;democracy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;It's true that the voter registration wing of the &lt;a href="http://www.acorn.org/"&gt;Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now&lt;/a&gt; has run into trouble in &lt;a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/07/acorn_nevada_offices_raided.html"&gt;several states&lt;/a&gt;. ACORN employees have been investigated and in some cases indicted for voter registration fraud. Most recently, more than 2,000 registrations in Lake County, Ind., have turned out to be &lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/index.html"&gt;falsified&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But does this constitute "destroying the fabric of democracy"? More like destroying the fabric of work ethic. There's been no evidence that the ACORN employees who submitted fraudulent forms have been paving the way for illegal voting. Rather, they're trying to get paid for doing no work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dan Satterberg, the Republican prosecuting attorney in King County, Wash., where the first ACORN case was prosecuted, &lt;a href="http://www.metrokc.gov/proatty/news/2007/Voter%20Registration%20Statement.htm"&gt;said&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Satterberg:&lt;/strong&gt; [A] joint federal and state investigation has determined that &lt;strong&gt;this&lt;br /&gt;scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Instead, the defendants cheated their employer. ... It was hardly a sophisticated plan: The defendants simply realized that making up names was easier than actually canvassing the streets looking for unregistered voters. ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;[It]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; appears that the employees of ACORN were not performing the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; work that they were being paid for, and to some extent, ACORN is a victim&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; of employee theft.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;The $8-an-hour employees were charged with providing false information on a voter registration, and in one case with making a false statement to a public official. ACORN was fined for showing insufficient oversight, but it was not charged with masterminding any kind of fraud.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, on the other side of the table, Obama wasn't entirely forthcoming about his relationship with ACORN:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; The only involvement I've had with ACORN is, I represented them &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;alongside the U.S. Justice Department in making Illinois implement a motor &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;voter law that helped people get registered at DMVs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; He &lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/02/20/obama_got_start_in_civil_rights_practice/"&gt;did&lt;/a&gt;, but that wasn't his only involvement. He also worked closely with ACORN's Chicago office when he ran a Project Vote registration drive after law school, and Obama did some leadership training for Chicago ACORN. The &lt;a href="http://www.woodsfund.org/"&gt;Woods Fund&lt;/a&gt;, where Obama served as a board member, gave &lt;a href="http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990s/990search/ffindershow.cgi?id=WOOD146"&gt;grants&lt;/a&gt; to ACORN's Chicago branch; both organizations are concerned with disadvantaged populations in that city. And during the primaries of this election, Obama's campaign paid upwards of $800,000 to the ACORN-affiliated Campaign Services Inc. for get-out-the-vote efforts (not voter registration). Those services were initially &lt;a href="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/election/s_584284.html"&gt;misrepresented&lt;/a&gt; on the campaign's Federal Election Commission reports, an error that some find suspicious and others say is par for the course. ACORN's Chicago office and CSI have not been under investigation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more on investigations of ACORN and registration fraud, and Obama's involvement with the group, keep an eye on our home page. A longer article on ACORN is in the works.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.factcheck.org/demos/factcheck/imagefiles/Image/2008_10_16_Debate3/all_debate3.jpg" alt="all" align="middle" height="310" hspace="12" width="492" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Joe the Plumber&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Ohio plumber Joe Wurzelbacher got a lot of airtime.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain first mentioned Joe by saying:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; Joe wants to buy the business that he has been in for all of these years, worked 10, 12 hours a day. And he wanted to buy the business but he looked at your tax plan and he saw that he was going to pay much higher taxes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; Joe’s newfound fame stems from an impromptu encounter Oct. 12, during which Wurzelbacher &lt;a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/spread-the-weal.html"&gt;questioned Obama’s tax plans&lt;/a&gt;. Joe has since become a conservative folk hero after telling both &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbWWHFLYHm0"&gt;Fox News&lt;/a&gt; and the conservative Web site &lt;a href="http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1465/pub_detail.asp"&gt;Family Security Matters&lt;/a&gt; that he thought Obama’s plans sounded “socialist.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At their encounter, Wurzelbacher told Obama that “I’m getting ready to buy a company that makes 250 to 280 thousand dollars a year,” before asking whether or not Obama would raise his taxes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the company is actually that profitable, and depending on how the business is organized legally, Obama’s plan would indeed raise his federal income taxes, and Obama conceded as much during the exchange. As we’ve written &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccains_small-business_bunk.html"&gt;before&lt;/a&gt;, small businesses commonly are organized in such a way that their owners file business taxes as individuals. So if Joe’s plumbing business earns more than $200,000 per year (or $250,000 if Joe is married and files tax returns jointly) then his taxes would indeed be higher under Obama's plan than under McCain's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s worth noting that while Wurzelbacher told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto that he lives “in a simple, middle class home” and portrayed himself as an ordinary working guy, Wurzelbacher’s $250,000 to $280,000 is a bit higher than "ordinary." In 2007, the last year for which the Census Bureau has figures, the median income for a family in Toledo, Ohio, was &lt;a href="http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ACSSAFFFacts?_event=Search&amp;amp;geo_id=&amp;amp;_geoContext=&amp;amp;_street=&amp;amp;_county=toledo&amp;amp;_cityTown=toledo&amp;amp;_state=04000US39&amp;amp;_zip=&amp;amp;_lang=en&amp;amp;_sse=on&amp;amp;pctxt=fph&amp;amp;pgsl=010"&gt;$43,553&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Joe the Plumber wasn’t through yet. He made an encore appearance when McCain recycled a bogus claim that Obama would "fine" small business owners who fail to provide health care coverage for their workers:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; Now, my old buddy, Joe, Joe the plumber, is out there. Now, Joe, Sen. Obama's plan, if you're a small business and . . .  you've got employees, and you've got kids, if you don't get – adopt the health care plan that Sen. Obama mandates, he's going to fine you . . . I don't think that Joe right now wants to pay a fine when he is seeing such difficult times in America's economy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain raised a &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_debate_no_2.html"&gt;similar charge&lt;/a&gt; at the last debate. It's still false. Obama’s plan, which is &lt;a href="http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf"&gt;posted on his Web site&lt;/a&gt;, specifically says, “Small businesses will be exempt from this requirement.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama hasn't defined exactly what he means by "small" but he seems to think Joe would qualify; he repeatedly referred to Joe’s “small business” during their exchange.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama's health plan does mandate that children have health coverage. If Joe doesn't provide insurance for his kids, he would face some unspecified penalty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Health Care Hype&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama and McCain traded boasts and accusations on each other’s health care&lt;img src="http://www.factcheck.org/demos/factcheck/imagefiles/Image/2008_10_16_Debate3/moderator_deb3_1.jpg" alt="bob" align="right" height="208" hspace="12" width="300" /&gt; plan. They ran afoul of the facts a few times.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; And we estimate we can cut the average family's premium by about $2,500 per year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The Obama camp does estimate that. But experts &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/theyve_got_you_covered.html"&gt;we talked to&lt;/a&gt; found that optimistic figure &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_inflated_health_savings.html"&gt;hard to believe&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then, McCain said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; Sen. Obama wants to set up health care bureaucracies, take over the health care of America through — as he said, his object is a single payer system. If you like that, you'll love Canada and England.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Obama’s plan is not a single-payer system, which would be one in which everyone has health care provided and paid for by the government. Under Obama’s health care plan, Americans can keep the insurance they have, choose from federally-approved private plans or buy into a new public plan similar to the health care federal employees and members of Congress have.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain was referring to comments Obama made at a town hall meeting in Albuquerque in August. But Obama did not say that "his object is a single payer system." He said it would "probably" be his first choice "if" he were starting with a clean slate, which he isn't. He said his object is to "build up the system we got."  According to the &lt;a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/19/obama-touts-single-payer-system/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wall Street Journal&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, Obama said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama (as quoted by the Wall Street Journal, Aug. 19):&lt;/strong&gt; If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system. ... [M]y attitude is let’s build up the system we got, let’s make it more efficient, we may be over time — as we make the system more efficient and everybody’s covered — decide that there are other ways for us to provide care more effectively.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Back in 2003, Obama was much more explicit. At an AFL-CIO forum, he &lt;a href="http://www.pnhp.org/news/2008/june/barack_obama_on_sing.php"&gt;said&lt;/a&gt; he was “a proponent of a single-payer health care program,” adding, “that’s what I’d like to see. And as all of you know, we may not get there immediately.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That was five years ago, however, and recently, Obama has said he’d favor single-payer only if “starting from scratch.” He &lt;a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/05/07/070507fa_fact_macfarquhar?currentPage=5"&gt;told &lt;em&gt;The New Yorker&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in May 2007: “If you're starting from scratch, then a single-payer system ... would probably make sense. But we've got all these legacy systems in place, and managing the transition ... would be difficult to pull off. So we may need a system that's not so disruptive.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama exaggerated a weakness in McCain's health care plan:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; Now, under Sen. McCain's plan there is a strong risk that people would lose their employer-based health care. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Experts see a risk that &lt;em&gt;some &lt;/em&gt;would lose their employer-based care, but Obama’s reference to "people" makes it sound as though nearly everyone would. Two independent studies both found that McCain’s plan would lead to a net decline in the number of people with health care through their jobs. (They said Obama’s would result in a net increase.) Both reports show, however, that there’s not a “strong risk” for all, or even a majority, of workers to lose their health care.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Currently, 159 million Americans have health care through their jobs, &lt;a href="http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparebar.jsp?ind=125&amp;amp;cat=3"&gt;according to the Kaiser Family Foundation&lt;/a&gt;. A &lt;a href="http://www.lewin.com/dyn/healthpolicies_3"&gt;study by the Lewin Group&lt;/a&gt; shows a net decline in the number with job-provided benefits of 9.4 million people in 2010 for McCain's plan. The &lt;a href="http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749"&gt;Tax Policy Center projected&lt;/a&gt; that the net decrease would be 7.7 million in 2010 and 20.3 million people by 2018.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain and Obama both said much more that may have confused viewers. For a spin-free look at both of the candidates’ health care plans, see &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/health_care_spin.html"&gt;our recent article on this issue&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;100% Negative?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; Obama falsely claimed all of McCain's ads had been "negative."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; And 100 percent, John, of your ads – 100 percent of them have been negative.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; It's not true.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; It absolutely is true.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;It was almost true, for one recent week. Obama was referring to &lt;a href="http://wiscadproject.wisc.edu/wiscads_release_100808.pdf"&gt;a report&lt;/a&gt; by the Wisconsin Advertising Project at the University of Wisconsin that concluded that “nearly 100 percent of the McCain campaign’s advertisements were negative” during the week of Sept. 28 through Oct. 4. During the same week, 34 percent of the Obama campaign’s ads were negative. The Obama campaign was found to have outspent the McCain campaign in nearly all of the competitive states, in some cases by a margin of more than 3-to-1. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; McCain’s ads, however, have not been deemed 100 percent negative in other weeks. In fact, in the week after the Republican National Convention, 77 percent of Obama’s ads were negative, &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703581.html"&gt;according to the advertising project&lt;/a&gt;, while 56 percent of McCain’s were negative.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Wrong on Exports to Colombia&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain was way off when he said that Colombia is "our largest agricultural importer of our products." To be sure, Colombia is an important trade partner. &lt;a href="http://www.fas.usda.gov/ustrade/USTRxBICO.asp?QI="&gt;According&lt;/a&gt; to statistics from the Department of Agriculture, Colombia imported slightly more than $1.4 million worth of U.S. agricultural products in 2007. But that's not even close to the nearly $1.9 billion worth of agricultural products exported to Canada. And there are dozens of other countries that import more U.S. farm products than Colombia does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Obama No Maverick&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama exaggerated his willingness to defy his own party. When McCain asked for an example, Obama offered this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; First of all, in terms of standing up to the leaders of my party, the first major bill that I voted on in the Senate was in support of tort reform, which wasn't very popular with trial lawyers, a major constituency in the Democratic Party.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;img src="http://www.factcheck.org/demos/factcheck/imagefiles/Image/2008_10_16_Debate3/obama_deb3_1.jpg" alt="obama" align="left" height="200" hspace="12" width="300" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;That 2005 bill was &lt;a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00009"&gt;S.5&lt;/a&gt;, which dealt with class-action lawsuits. Obama was one of 18 Democrats voting for it, while 26 opposed. It's a stretch for Obama to claim that he bolted his party when nearly 41 percent of Democrats voted in favor of the bill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And as &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_obama.html"&gt;we pointed out before&lt;/a&gt;, Obama has a pretty consistent record of voting in stride with his party. According to Congressional Quarterly, in Obama's three years in the Senate, he has voted with his party almost 97 percent of the time. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Budget Ballyhoo&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both candidates got ahead of themselves when it came to balancing the budget and eliminating the deficit. Obama said every one of his spending increases was paid for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama: &lt;/strong&gt;Now, what I've done throughout this campaign is to propose a net spending cut. ... Every dollar that I've proposed, I've proposed an additional cut so that it matches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain said he could balance the budget within one term.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Schieffer:&lt;/strong&gt; Do either of you think you can balance the budget in four years? You have said previously you thought you could, Sen. McCain.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain: &lt;/strong&gt;Sure I do. And let me tell you...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Schieffer: &lt;/strong&gt;You can still do that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain: &lt;/strong&gt;Yes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;These are pie-in-the-sky predictions. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;We've &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_budget_according_to_mccain_part_i.html"&gt;looked at&lt;/a&gt; McCain's balanced-budget promise before – it's out of reach unless he cuts spending to an unrealistic degree. The Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center estimates that by 2013, at the end of his first term, McCain's tax plan would have him facing a $662 billion deficit. That could come to more than half of that year's discretionary spending, which the Office of Management and Budget &lt;a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2009/pdf/hist.pdf"&gt;projects&lt;/a&gt; to be $1.1 trillion. And we've &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_obama.html"&gt;previously disputed&lt;/a&gt; Obama's claim that "every dime" of his proposed spending is covered. The Tax Policy Center estimated that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Obama’s plan – and McCain's, too –  &lt;a href="http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/411750_updated_candidates_summary.pdf"&gt;"would substantially increase the national debt over the next ten years&lt;/a&gt;" unless the candidates come up with "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;substantial cuts in government spending" that they haven't yet specified.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; More recently, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget also &lt;a href="http://www.usbudgetwatch.org/files/crfb/USBW%20Voter%20Guide%20October%205%202008.pdf"&gt;estimated&lt;/a&gt; that in 2013, Obama’s major budget proposals – including spending cuts – would increase the deficit for that year by $281 billion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt; The $42,000, Again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;McCain was on the wrong side of this exchange:&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain&lt;/strong&gt;: Sen. Obama talks about voting for budgets. He voted twice for a budget resolution that increases the taxes on individuals making $42,000 a year. . . .&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama&lt;/strong&gt;: [T]he notion that I voted for a tax increase for people making $42,000 a year has been disputed by everybody who has looked at this claim&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;McCain was wrong to say Obama's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;March 2008 &lt;a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00085"&gt;vote&lt;/a&gt; for a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;budget resolution "increases" anything. Budget resolutions set targets for taxes and spending; actually raising or lowering them requires separate legislation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.factcheck.org/demos/factcheck/imagefiles/Image/2008_10_16_Debate3/mccain_debate3_1.jpg" alt="mccain" align="left" height="193" hspace="12" width="340" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt; The $42,000 figure also would only apply to single taxpayers, not to couples or families. As we’ve &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_32000_question.html"&gt;reported&lt;/a&gt;, a single taxpayer making more than $41,500 would have seen a tax increase, but a couple filing jointly would have seen no increase unless they made at least $83,000, and for a couple with two children the cut-off would have been $90,000. Regardless, the increase that Obama once supported as part of a Democratic budget bill is not part of his own current tax plan. And Obama was right when he said "even FOX News disputes" McCain's $42,000 claim. Chris Wallace of Fox News &lt;a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,401102,00.html"&gt;agreed&lt;/a&gt; that it was misleading. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Wrong Justice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain said that Obama voted against the confirmations of Supreme Court Justices Stephen Breyer and John Roberts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain: &lt;/strong&gt;Senator Obama voted against Justice Breyer and Justice Roberts on the grounds that they didn't meet his ideological standards.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;McCain probably meant to say that Obama &lt;a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00245"&gt;voted&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00002"&gt;against&lt;/a&gt; the confirmations of Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, the most recent additions to the court. Obama did vote against the confirmation of Roberts, but he wasn’t in the Senate when Breyer was nominated to join the Court. Breyer was nominated to the Supreme Court by former President Bill Clinton and &lt;a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=103&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00242"&gt;confirmed&lt;/a&gt; by the Senate in 1994. Obama didn’t become a senator until January 2005.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Charter School Slip-Up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama overstated his work on charter schools in Illinois:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Obama: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"  &gt; Charter schools, I doubled the number of charter schools in Illinois despite some reservations from teachers unions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Actually, the &lt;a href="http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=19&amp;amp;GAID=3&amp;amp;DocTypeID=SB&amp;amp;LegId=100&amp;amp;SessionID=3&amp;amp;GA=93"&gt;bill&lt;/a&gt; Obama cosponsored doubled the number of charter schools in Chicago, not in the entire state of Illinois. (And an extra slap on the wrist to Obama for using the personal pronoun in saying that "I doubled the number of charter schools" – as we've &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html"&gt;pointed out before&lt;/a&gt;, it takes a lot more than one politician to get a bill passed.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Tried But Untrue&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we noted that both candidates continued to recycle bunk that we've heard before:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; McCain said once again, "We have to stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much." As we've noted several times in the past, $700 billion would have been the cost of all annual U.S. oil imports when the price was $140 per barrel. But it's &lt;a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/price-oil-sinks-half-its-july-peak-36580"&gt;down to about half that now&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Obama said oil companies have "68 million acres that they currently have leased that they're not drilling." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;We've previously &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_debate_no_2.html"&gt;criticized&lt;/a&gt; him for similar statements, and it's still not true. A&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;s we've &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_the_democrats_correct_in_stating_that.html"&gt;pointed out&lt;/a&gt;, there is exploratory drilling being done on much of these lands, which are not yet producing oil. In 2007 &lt;a href="http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/Business_and_Fiscal_Resources/2006_pls.Par.75530.File.dat/Part_3.pdf"&gt;there were&lt;/a&gt; more than 15,000 holes that were being proposed, started or finished that do not count as "productive" holes.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; Listing some of his running mate's achievements, McCain credited Gov. Sarah Palin with “a $40 billion pipeline of natural gas that's going to relieve the energy needs" of the lower 48 states. We'll just note, &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_convention_spin_part_ii.html"&gt;again&lt;/a&gt;, that the pipeline is still in pre-development and is actually projected to cost $26.5 billion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Sea Story&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;ears of nautical buffs may have perked up when McCain said, “we've sailed Navy ships around the world for 60 years with nuclear power plants on them.” His naval history is off by a few years. The first nuclear-powered vessel, the submarine &lt;a href="http://www.ussnautilus.org/history.html"&gt;USS Nautilus&lt;/a&gt;, was actually launched Jan. 21, 1954.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;–by &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jessica Henig, Joe Miller, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lori Robertson, Justin Bank, D'Angelo Gore, Emi Kolawole and Brooks Jackson&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_section_header"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Sources&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_section"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Courier New;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Congressional Research Service. &lt;a href="http://www.ncseonline.org/NLE/CRSreports/07March/RL33763.pdf"&gt;Oil and Gas Tax Subsidies: Current Status and Analysis&lt;/a&gt;. Washington: GPO, 2007.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Courier New;font-size:85%;"  &gt; Burman, Leonard E., et.al. "&lt;a href="http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749"&gt;An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates’ Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008&lt;/a&gt;." Tax Policy Center, 12 Sept. 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Courier New;font-size:85%;"  &gt; Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. "&lt;a href="http://www.usbudgetwatch.org/files/crfb/usbw0915promises.pdf"&gt;Promises, Promises: A Fiscal Voter Guide to the 2008 Election&lt;/a&gt;." U.S. Budget Watch. 15 Sep. 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Satterberg, Dan. "&lt;a href="http://www.metrokc.gov/proatty/news/2007/Voter%20Registration%20Statement.htm"&gt;Statement of Interim King County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg&lt;/a&gt;." 26 Jul. 2007.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;U.S. Census Bureau. "&lt;a href="http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ACSSAFFFacts?_event=Search&amp;amp;geo_id=&amp;amp;_geoContext=&amp;amp;_street=&amp;amp;_county=toledo&amp;amp;_cityTown=toledo&amp;amp;_state=04000US39&amp;amp;_zip=&amp;amp;_lang=en&amp;amp;_sse=on&amp;amp;pctxt=fph&amp;amp;pgsl=010"&gt;Toledo City, Ohio Factsheet.&lt;/a&gt;" U.S. Census Bureau. American Community Survey, 2006, accessed 16 Oct. 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&amp;amp;tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=22392&amp;amp;tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=12387&amp;amp;cHash=cde29e8614"&gt;ACORN Responds to Senator McCain’s Desperate Attack&lt;/a&gt;. 15 Oct. 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Griffin, Drew and Kathleen Johnston . “Thousands of voter registration forms faked, officials say.” 10 Oct. 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Robinson, Mike. &lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/02/20/obama_got_start_in_civil_rights_practice/"&gt;Obama got start in civil rights practice&lt;/a&gt;. Associated Press, 20 Feb. 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tapper, Jake. &lt;a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/spread-the-weal.html"&gt;Spread the Wealth&lt;/a&gt;. ABC New Political Punch  Blog. 14 Oct. 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Brown, David M. “&lt;a href="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/election/s_584284.html"&gt;Obama to amend report on $800,000 in spending.&lt;/a&gt;” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 22 Aug. 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CQ member Profiles: Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill). Congressional Quarterly, 12 June 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rabinowitz, Steve. “&lt;a href="http://wiscadproject.wisc.edu/wiscads_release_100808.pdf"&gt;Pres. TV advertising spending continues to grow;&lt;br /&gt;Over $28 million spent from September 28-October 4.&lt;/a&gt;” Wisconsin Ad Project.  8 Oct. 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kurtz, Howard. “&lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703581.html"&gt;Recent Obama Ads More Negative Than Rival's, Study Says: Democrat Said to Be Facing Pressure to 'Show Some Spine.'&lt;/a&gt;” Washington Post, 18 Sept. 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OECD Tax Database. Centre for Tax Policy and Administration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hodge, Scott. &lt;a href="http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/22917.html"&gt;U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes.&lt;/a&gt; Tax Foundation, 18 March 2008&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-4728093886585939584?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/4728093886585939584/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=4728093886585939584' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/4728093886585939584'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/4728093886585939584'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/10/final-presidential-debate-video-and.html' title='Final Presidential Debate Video and Factcheck Info'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-7811356929974639001</id><published>2008-10-15T07:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-10-15T08:29:42.241-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Pre-Debate Faith and Politics Post</title><content type='html'>I haven't posted much lately.  I'm still thinking about why and I'll probably post about it soon. &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/09922837614859997243"&gt;Preacherman&lt;/a&gt; asked me if I was going to post about tonight's debate, and so I will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm starting to realize that I follow politics like most people follow sports.  I certainly have strong opinions regarding politics and the current presidential election, but I don't identify with any political party and I don't publicly endorse any candidate, as I feel that such an endorsement would be inappropriate and unethical for someone in my profession.  However, I have and will continue to call for honesty and ethical behavior in politics, particularly when it comes to Christian involvement in the political arena.  I have and will continue to resist efforts by either political party to co-opt Christians for political gain.  I have and will continue to assert that neither political party has a purely Kingdom of God agenda, and I refuse to choose between behavioral morality and social justice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe that it is a legitimate position for a Christian to say that their allegiance to the Kingdom of God prevents them from participating in national politics.  I respect that.  I also belive that it is a legitimate position for a Christian to participate in the political arena while pledging their "first allegiance" to the Kingdom of God, and thereby vote from the convictions of their faith and the Gospel.  This is the position I find myself in during this election cycle.  However, I must make one other point:  If a Christian, who has committed themselves to the Way of Jesus takes this position they must a) conduct themselves in ways that do not violate that Way for some "righteous purpose" and they must not reward or propegate such behavior in the campaign of any candidate, and b)  they must actively seek to be informed on the issues utilizing non-partisan sources rather than attaching themselves to the firehoses of propaganda eminating from obviously partisan sources.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will post debate video and factcheck info when it becomes available later this week.  Here are some of the sources I use to stay informed:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/"&gt;www.factcheck.org&lt;/a&gt; - this is a great, non-partisan site that examines the claims of both candidates and their running mates.  Also features a weekly vidcast summing up each weeks information.  This site will post a full report and analysis the morning after each debate, and their analysis for all previous debates (including the VP debate) is still available.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://wire.factcheck.org"&gt;http://wire.factcheck.org&lt;/a&gt; - this is a companion site to factcheck.org, which is updated more often with "breaking news".  I reccomend subscribing to the &lt;a href="http://wire.factcheck.org/feed/"&gt;rss feed&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.politifact.com/"&gt;www.politifact.com&lt;/a&gt; - similar to factcheck, this site also examines the claims of both candidates.  It includes a fun feature called the "truth meter" that rates the truthfulness of criticisms that are leveled against each candidate.  I highly recommend subscribing to politifact on&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/politifact"&gt; twitter&lt;/a&gt;, especially during the debate tonight.  They do a great job of live factchecking during the debate.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;We'll get back to talking theology soon.&lt;br /&gt;Blessings,&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-7811356929974639001?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/7811356929974639001/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=7811356929974639001' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/7811356929974639001'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/7811356929974639001'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/10/pre-debate-faith-and-politics-post.html' title='Pre-Debate Faith and Politics Post'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-2546778899267026467</id><published>2008-09-27T13:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-27T13:07:17.106-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Video:  The debate...in case you missed it (Plus Factcheck info)</title><content type='html'>&lt;center&gt;&lt;a style="left: 348px ! important; top: 0px ! important;" title="Click here to block this object with Adblock Plus" class="abp-objtab-03600325891667139 visible" href="http://www.hulu.com/embed/0tc4BEKPGU3ngA46IjnV5Q"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;object height="296" width="512"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.hulu.com/embed/0tc4BEKPGU3ngA46IjnV5Q"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.hulu.com/embed/0tc4BEKPGU3ngA46IjnV5Q" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" height="296" width="512"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Below is the info and analysis from &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/"&gt;www.factcheck.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="article_header"&gt;&lt;span&gt;FactChecking Debate No. 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_date"&gt;&lt;span&gt;September 27, 2008&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_subheader"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Facts muddled in Mississippi McCain-Obama meeting.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_section_header"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Summary&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_section"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain and Obama contradicted each other repeatedly during their first debate, and each volunteered some factual misstatements as well. Here’s how we sort them out:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Obama said McCain adviser Henry Kissinger backs talks with Iran “without preconditions,” but McCain disputed that. In fact, Kissinger did recently call for “high level” talks with Iran starting at the secretary of state level and said, “I do not believe that we can make conditions.” After the debate the McCain campaign issued a statement quoting Kissinger as saying he didn’t favor presidential talks with Iran.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Obama denied voting for a bill that called for increased taxes on “people” making as little as $42,000 a year, as McCain accused him of doing. McCain was right, though only for single taxpayers. A married couple would have had to make $83,000 to be affected by the vote, and anyway no such increase is in Obama’s tax plan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain and Obama contradicted each other on what Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen said about troop withdrawals. Mullen said a time line for withdrawal could be “very dangerous” but was not talking specifically about “Obama’s plan,” as McCain maintained.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain tripped up on one of his signature issues – special appropriation “earmarks.” He said they had “tripled in the last five years,” when in fact they have decreased sharply.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Obama claimed Iraq “has” a $79 billion surplus. It once was projected to be as high as that. It’s now down to less than $60 billion. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain repeated his overstated claim that the U.S. pays $700 billion a year for oil to hostile nations. Imports are running at about $536 billion this year, and a third of it comes from Canada, Mexico and the U.K.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Obama said 95 percent of “the American people” would see a tax cut under his proposal. The actual figure is 81 percent of households.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Obama mischaracterized an aspect of McCain’s health care plan, saying “employers” would be taxed on the value of health benefits provided to workers. Employers wouldn’t, but the workers would. McCain also would grant workers up to a $5,000 tax credit per family to cover health insurance.&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt; McCain misrepresented Obama's plan by claiming he'd be "handing the health care system over to the federal government." Obama would expand some government programs but would allow people to keep their current plans or chose from private ones, as well.&lt;br /&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain claimed Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower had drafted a letter of resignation from the Army to be sent in case the 1944 D-Day landing at Normandy turned out to be a failure. Ike prepared a letter taking responsibility, but he didn’t mention resigning.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;For full details, as well as other dubious claims and statements, please read our full Analysis section.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_section_header"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Analysis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_section"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/26/debate.mississippi.transcript/"&gt;first of three scheduled debates&lt;/a&gt; between Republican Sen. John McCain and Democratic Sen. Barack Obama took place Sept. 26 on the campus of the &lt;a href="http://www.olemiss.edu/debate/"&gt;University of Mississippi&lt;/a&gt; at Oxford. It was sponsored by the &lt;a href="http://www.debates.org/index.html"&gt;Commission on Presidential Debates&lt;/a&gt;. It was carried live on national television networks and was moderated by Jim Lehrer, executive editor and anchor of the PBS "NewsHour" program.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We noted these factual misstatements:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Did Kissinger Back Obama?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain attacked Obama for his &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/24/us/politics/24transcript.html?pagewanted=print"&gt;declaration&lt;/a&gt; that he would meet with leaders of Iran and other hostile nations "without preconditions." To do so with Iran, McCain said, "isn't just naive; it's dangerous." Obama countered by saying former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger – a McCain adviser – agreed with him:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Senator McCain mentioned Henry Kissinger, who's one of his advisers, who, along with five recent secretaries of state, just said that we should meet with Iran – guess what – without precondition. This is one of your own advisers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain rejected Obama's claim:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain: &lt;/strong&gt;By the way, my friend, Dr. Kissinger, who's been my friend for 35 years, would be interested to hear this conversation and Senator Obama's depiction of his -- of his positions on the issue. I've known him for 35 years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; We will take a look.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; And I guarantee you he would not -- he would not say that presidential top level.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; Nobody's talking about that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;So who's right? Kissinger did in fact &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/20/se.01.html"&gt;say&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt; a few days earlier at a forum of former secretaries of state that he favors very high-level talks with Iran – without conditions: &lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kissinger Sept. 20:&lt;/strong&gt; Well,&lt;strong&gt; I am in favor of negotiating with Iran. &lt;/strong&gt;And one utility of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East, of a stable Middle East, and our notion on nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it. And, therefore, &lt;strong&gt;I actually have preferred doing it at the secretary of state level&lt;/strong&gt; so that we -- we know we're dealing with authentic...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;CNN's Frank Sesno:&lt;/strong&gt; Put at a very high level right out of the box?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kissinger:&lt;/strong&gt; Initially, yes.But &lt;strong&gt;I do not believe that we can make conditions for the opening of negotiations.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Later, McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin, was asked about this by CBS News anchor Katie Couric, and Palin said, "I’ve never heard Henry Kissinger say, ‘Yeah, I’ll meet with these leaders without preconditions being met.'" Afterward Couric &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/us/politics/26watch.html?pagewanted=print"&gt;said&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;, "We confirmed Henry Kissinger’s position following our interview."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After the McCain-Obama debate, however, Kissinger &lt;a href="http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/26/1456431.aspx"&gt;issued a statement&lt;/a&gt; saying he doesn't favor a presidential meeting:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kissinger:&lt;/strong&gt; Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;$42,000 per year?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain said – and Obama denied – that Obama had voted to increase taxes on "people who make as low as $42,000 a year." McCain was correct – with qualification.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; But, again, Senator Obama has shifted on a number of occasions. He has voted in the United States Senate to increase taxes on people who make as low as $42,000 a year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; That's not true, John. That's not true.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; And that's just a fact. Again, you can look it up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; Look, it's just not true.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/2008_9_26_Debate_allnightlong/both_debate_1_nsg.jpg" alt="debate.both" align="left" height="208" hspace="12" width="295" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Yes, as we’ve said &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_32000_question.html"&gt;before&lt;/a&gt;, Obama did in fact vote for a budget resolution that called for higher federal income tax rates on a single, non-homeowner who earned as little as $42,000 per year. A couple filing jointly, however, would have had to earn at least $83,000 per year to be affected.&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;A family of four with income up to $90,000 would not have been affected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The resolution actually would not have altered taxes without additional legislation. It  called generally for allowing most of the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts to expire. McCain is referring to the provision that would have allowed the 25 percent tax bracket to return to 28 percent. The tax plan Obama now proposes, however, would not raise the rate on that tax bracket.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Timetable Tiff&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama contradicted McCain about what Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen's said regarding "Obama's plan" for troop withdrawals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; Admiral Mullen suggests that Senator Obama's plan is dangerous for America. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; That's not the case. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; That's what ... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; What he said was a precipitous... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; That's what Admiral Mullen said. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; ... withdrawal would be dangerous. He did not say that. That's not true.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt; Admiral Mullen did say in a Fox News interview that having a time line for withdrawal would be dangerous.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt; Mullen (July 20):&lt;/strong&gt; I think the consequences could be very dangerous in that regard. I'm convinced at this point in time that coming – making reductions based on conditions on the ground are very important.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;However, interviewer Chris Wallace had just told Mullen to take Obama out of the equation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt; Wallace (July 20):&lt;/strong&gt; But I'm asking you in the absence – forget about Obama. Forget about the politics. If I were to say to you, "Let's set a time line of getting all of our combat troops out within two years," what do you think would be the consequences of setting that kind of a time line?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt; So strictly speaking Mullen was not talking specifically about "Obama's plan." He did say a rigid timetable could have dangerous consequences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Earmarks Down, Not Up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain was way off the mark when he said that earmarks in federal appropriations bills had tripled in the last five years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; But the point is that – you see, I hear this all the time. "It's only $18&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;billion." Do you know that it's tripled in the last five years?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;In fact, earmarks have actually gone down. According to Citizens Against Government Waste, there was &lt;a href="http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2003"&gt;$22.5 billion worth of earmark spending in 2003&lt;/a&gt;. By 2008, that figure had come down to &lt;a href="http://%20www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2008"&gt;$17.2 billion&lt;/a&gt;. That's a decrease of 24 percent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taxpayers for Common Sense, another watchdog group, &lt;a href="http://www.taxpayer.net/search_by_tag.php?action=view&amp;amp;proj_id=996&amp;amp;tag=earmark%20reform&amp;amp;type=Project"&gt;said in 2008&lt;/a&gt; that "Congress has cut earmarks by 23 percent from the record 2005 levels," according to its analysis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;$3 million to study the DNA of bears? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;And while we're on the subject of earmarks, McCain repeated a misleading line we've heard &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/outrageous_exaggerations.html"&gt;before&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; You know, we spent $3 million to study the DNA of bears in Montana. I don't know if that was a criminal issue or a paternal issue, but the fact is that it was $3 million of our taxpayers' money. And it has got to be brought under control.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain's been playing this for laughs since 2003. The &lt;a href="http://www.nrmsc.usgs.gov/research/NCDEbeardna.htm"&gt;study &lt;/a&gt; in question was done by the U.S. Geological Survey, and it relied in part on federal appropriations. Readers (and politicians) may disagree on whether a noninvasive study of grizzly bear population and habitat is a waste of money. McCain clearly thinks it is – but on the other hand, he never moved to get rid of the earmark. In fact, he &lt;a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00034"&gt;voted &lt;/a&gt;for the bill that made appropriations for the study. He did propose some changes to the bill, but none that nixed the bear funding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Iraqi Surplus Exaggerated&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama was out of date in saying the Iraqi government has "79 billion dollars," when he argued that the U.S. should stop spending money on the war in Iraq. &lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; We are currently spending $10 billion a month in Iraq when they have a $79 billion surplus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/2008_9_26_Debate_allnightlong/obama_debate_1_nsg.jpg" alt="obama" align="right" height="188" hspace="12" width="262" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;As we've said &lt;a href="http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:dqXgcYFLjcMJ:wire.factcheck.org/2008/09/09/obama-make-an-iraqi-accounting-oversight/+iraq+surplus+factcheck+wire&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ct=clnk&amp;amp;cd=1&amp;amp;gl=us"&gt;before&lt;/a&gt;, there was a time when the country could have had as much as $79 billion, but that time has passed. What the Iraqis actually “have” is $29.4 billion in the bank. The Government Accountability Office &lt;a href="http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d081031.pdf"&gt;projected&lt;/a&gt; in August that Iraq’s 2008 budget surplus could range anywhere from $38.2 billion to $50.3 billion, depending on oil revenue, price and volume. Then, in early August, the Iraqi legislature &lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2008-08-06-Iraq-parliament_N.htm"&gt;passed&lt;/a&gt; a $21 billion supplemental spending bill, which was omitted from the GAO’s surplus tally since it was still under consideration. The supplemental will be completely funded by this year’s surplus. So the range of what the Iraqi’s could have at year’s end is actually $47 billion to $59 billion. The $79 billion figure is outdated and incorrect.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;$700 billion for oil?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain repeated an exaggerated claim that the U.S. is sending $700 billion per year to hostile countries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; Look, we are sending $700 billion a year overseas to countries that don't like us very much. Some of that money ends up in the hands of terrorist organizations. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_mccain.html"&gt;&lt;img src="http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/2008_9_26_Debate_allnightlong/mccain_debate_1_nsg.jpg" alt="mccain" align="left" height="203" hspace="12" width="276" /&gt;That's not accurate&lt;/a&gt;. McCain also made this claim in his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention. He's referring to the amount of money the U.S. spends in importing oil. But the number is inflated. In fact, we actually pay more like $536 billion for the oil we need. And one-third of those payments go to Canada, Mexico and the U.K.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Note: A few of our readers messaged us, after we first noted McCain's mistake, with the thought that he was referring to foreign aid and not to oil. If so he's even farther off than we supposed: The &lt;a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2008/state.html"&gt;entire budget for the State Department and International Programs&lt;/a&gt; works out to just $51.3 million.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Tax Cut Recipients&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama overstated how many people would save on taxes under his plan:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; My definition – here's what I can tell the American people: 95&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; percent of you will get a tax cut. And if you make less than $250,000,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; less than a quarter-million dollars a year, then you will not see one&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; dime's worth of tax increase.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt; That should be 95 percent of families, not 95 percent of "American people." An analysis by the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html"&gt;found&lt;/a&gt; that Obama's plan would decrease taxes for 95.5 percent of families with children. Overall, &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/keeping_quiet.html%5D"&gt;81.3 percent of households&lt;/a&gt; would get a tax cut under his proposal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Health Care Hyperbole&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama and McCain traded incorrect statements on each other's health care plan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; So you may end up getting a $5,000 tax credit. Here's the only problem: Your employer now has to pay taxes on the health care that you're getting from your employer. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;As we said &lt;a href="http://wire.factcheck.org/2008/09/09/health-care-hyperbole/"&gt;before&lt;/a&gt;, McCain’s plan doesn’t call for taxing employers on health care benefits; it would instead tax &lt;em&gt;employees&lt;/em&gt;. As the law stands now, employees don’t pay taxes on the dollar value of their health insurance benefits. Under McCain’s plan, they would.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain also misrepresented Obama's plan when he said that his opponent favored "handing the health care system over to the federal government."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; Well, I want to make sure we're not handing the health care system over to the federal government which is basically what would ultimately happen with Senator Obama's health care plan. I want the families to make decisions between themselves and their doctors. Not the federal government.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain made a similar claim in his acceptance speech, when he said that&lt;br /&gt;Obama's plans would "force families into a government run health care&lt;br /&gt;system." We &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_mccain.html"&gt;called it false then&lt;/a&gt; and we stand by that. Obama's plan mandates coverage for children, but not for adults, and it does not require anyone to be covered by a nationalized system. Obama's plan expands the insurance coverage offered by the government, but allows people to keep their own plans or choose from private plans as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Ike Was No Quitter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain mangled his military history:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;President Eisenhower, on the night &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;before the Normandy invasion, went into his room, and he wrote out two &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;letters.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;One of them was a letter congratulating the great members of the military &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;and allies that had conducted and succeeded in the greatest invasion in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;history, still to this day, and forever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;And he wrote out another letter, and that was a letter of resignation from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;the United States Army for the failure of the landings at Normandy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;The story is widely circulated in military circles but not entirely true. Eisenhower (then a general, not yet a president) did in fact write a letter taking responsibility should the D-Day invasion fail. But &lt;a href="http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/d-day-message/images/failure-message.gif"&gt;Eisenhower's letter&lt;/a&gt; does not mention resigning. Here's the full text:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Eisenhower (June 5, 1944):&lt;/strong&gt; Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;to attack at this time and place was based on the best information &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;it is mine alone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;No mention of quitting the Army, or his command.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;A Longer Timetable&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Obama stretched out his schedule for withdrawing troops from Iraq. During the debate, Obama said we could "reduce" the number of combat troops in 16 months:&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Now, what I've said is we should end &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;this war responsibly. We should do it in phases. But in 16 months we &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;should be able to reduce our combat troops, put – provide some relief to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;military families and our troops and bolster our efforts in Afghanistan so &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;that we can capture and kill bin Laden and crush al Qaeda.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;But in Oct. 2007, Obama supported removing &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; combat troops from Iraq&lt;br /&gt;within 16 months:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama (Oct. 2007):&lt;/strong&gt; I will remove one or two brigades a month, and get all of our &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;combat troops out of Iraq within 16 months. The only troops I will keep in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Iraq will perform the limited missions of protecting our diplomats and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;carrying out targeted strikes on al Qaeda. And I will launch the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;diplomatic and humanitarian initiatives that are so badly needed. Let &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;there be no doubt: I will end this war.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;The quote appears in "&lt;a href="http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/Fact_Sheet_Defense_FINAL.pdf"&gt;Barack Obama and Joe Biden on Defense Issues&lt;/a&gt;" – a&lt;br /&gt;position paper that was still available on the campaign's Web site as Obama spoke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Still Soft on Iran?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/soft_on_iran.html"&gt;repeated&lt;/a&gt; the false insinuation that Obama opposed naming Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; There is the Republican Guard in Iran, which Senator Kyl had an amendment in order to declare them a sponsor of terror. Senator Obama said that would be provocative. ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; Well, let me just correct something very quickly. I believe the Republican Guard of Iran is a terrorist organization. I've consistently said so. What Senator McCain refers to is a measure in the Senate that would try to broaden the mandate inside of Iraq. To deal with Iran.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Obama has in fact said that the IRGC should be named a terrorist group. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;He was a cosponsor of the &lt;a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s.00970:"&gt;Iran Counter-Proliferation Act&lt;/a&gt;, which, among other things, named the IRGC a terrorist organization. What he &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;voted against was the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which also called for the terrorist group distinction. But Obama said that he opposed the amendment on the grounds that it was "saber-rattling."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama press release (Sept. 26, 2007):&lt;/strong&gt; Senator Obama clearly recognizes the serious threat posed by Iran. However, he does not agree with the president that the best way to counter that threat is to keep large numbers of troops in Iraq, and he does not think that now is the time for saber-rattling towards Iran. In fact, he thinks that our large troop presence in Iraq has served to strengthen Iran - not weaken it. He believes that diplomacy and economic pressure, such as the divestment bill that he has proposed, is the right way to pressure the Iranian regime. Accordingly, he would have opposed the Kyl-Lieberman amendment had he been able to vote today.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Who's Naive on Georgia?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain called Obama's initial statement on the conflict in Georgia "naive." It's worth noting Obama's words echoed those of the White House.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain: &lt;/strong&gt;Well, I was interested in Senator Obama's reaction to the Russian aggression against Georgia. His first statement was, "Both sides ought to show restraint."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Again, a little bit of naivete there. He doesn't understand that Russia committed serious aggression against Georgia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;It's true, as McCain said, that during the conflict between Georgia and Russia, Obama said, "Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to&lt;br /&gt;avoid an escalation to full scale war" in his first statement on the conflict. But so did the White House. Press secretary Dana Perino said on Aug. 8, “We urge restraint on all sides – that violence would be curtailed and that direct dialogue could ensue in order to help resolve their differences.” We &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_convention_spin_part_ii.html"&gt;pointed this out&lt;/a&gt; when New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani mischaracterized Obama's response to the crisis during the GOP convention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt; &lt;div align="left"&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;"&gt;Boeing Boasts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;McCain was went too far when he said, "I saved the taxpayers $6.8 billion by fighting a contract that was negotiated between Boeing and DOD that was completely wrong. And we fixed it and we killed it."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain &lt;a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/04/john-mccain-boeing-face-markets-cx_ll_0304autofacescan04.html"&gt;certainly did lead a fight&lt;/a&gt; to kill the contract, and the effort ended in prison sentences for defense contractors. But the contract isn't exactly "fixed" yet. In fact, questions have been raised about the role McCain has played in helping a Boeing rival secure the new contract.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After the original Boeing contract to supply refueling airliners was nixed in 2003, the bidding process was reopened. And in early 2007, Boeing rival EADS/Airbus won the bid the second time around. But Boeing filed a protest about the way the bids were processed, and the Government Accountability Office &lt;a href="http://www.governmentexecutive.com/pdfs/061808cd1.pdf"&gt;released&lt;/a&gt; a report that found in Boeing's favor. In the summary of GAO's investigation, the organization said there were "significant errors" with the bid process and that the directions given to Boeing were "misleading."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further, the &lt;em&gt;New York Times&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/business/19tanker.html?partner=rssnyt"&gt;reported&lt;/a&gt; that "McCain’s top advisers, including a cochairman of his presidential campaign, were lobbyists for EADS. And Mr. McCain had written to the Defense Department, urging it to ignore a trade dispute between the United States and Europe over whether Airbus received improper subsidies." A liberal campaign finance group ran an ad hitting McCain on the connections back in July and our colleagues at PolitiFact &lt;a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/574/"&gt;found&lt;/a&gt; their attacks to be true, saying: "Center for Responsive Politics prepared a report for PolitiFact that backs [the charge] up. U.S. employees of EADS/Airbus have contributed $15,700 in this election cycle to McCain’s campaign."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Nuclear Charges&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain said Obama was against storing nuclear waste. That's not exactly his position.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; And Senator Obama says he's for nuclear, but he's against reprocessing and he's against storing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; I -- I just have to correct the record here. I have never said that&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; I object to nuclear waste. What I've said is that we have to store it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;safely.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Obama's official position is that he does support safe storage of nuclear waste:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/EnergyFactSheet.pdf"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama fact sheet:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Obama will also lead federal efforts to look for a safe, long-term &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;disposal solution based on objective, scientific analysis. In the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;meantime, Obama will develop requirements to ensure that the waste stored &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;at current reactor sites is contained using the most advanced dry-cask &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;storage technology available. Barack Obama believes that Yucca Mountain is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;not an option. Our government has spent billions of dollars on Yucca &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Mountain, and yet there are still significant questions about whether &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;nuclear waste can be safely stored there.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;But the McCain campaign has attacked Obama before on this issue, going as&lt;br /&gt;far as to claim Obama did not support nuclear energy at all, &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/distorting_obama.html"&gt;which was false&lt;/a&gt;. Obama has said he supports nuclear as long as it is "clean and safe."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Against Alternative Energy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obama said that McCain had voted 23 times against alternative energy:&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama: &lt;/strong&gt;Over 26 years, Senator McCain voted 23 times against alternative energy, like solar, and wind, and biodiesel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Here's the Obama campaign's &lt;a href="http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/09/26/debate_reality_check_mccain_vs.php"&gt;list of the 23 votes&lt;/a&gt;. We find they're overstating the case. In many instances, McCain voted not against alternative energy but against mandatory use of alternative energy, or he voted in favor of allowing exemptions from these mandates. Only 11 of the 23 votes cited by the Obama campaign involve reducing or eliminating incentives for renewable energy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, McCain was indignant at the suggestion that he'd voted against alternative energy at all.&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; I have voted for alternate fuel all of my time. ... No one can be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;opposed to alternate energy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;But McCain's record says differently. As we say above, he has voted against funding for alternative energy on 11 occasions. He may be in favor of alternative energy in theory, but he has declined opportunities to support it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In McCain's energy plan, he supports nuclear power and "clean" coal, which are alternative energies. But they don't qualify as renewable energy, such as hydro,&lt;br /&gt;solar and wind power. McCain's plan makes a vague promise to "rationalize&lt;br /&gt;the current patchwork of temporary tax credits that provide commercial&lt;br /&gt;feasibility." The experts &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/wind_power_puffery.html"&gt;we talked to&lt;/a&gt; weren't sure what exactly that meant.&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; Committee Oversight&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both candidates were right in talking about Obama’s NATO subcommittee.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; Senator Obama is the chairperson of a committee that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;oversights NATO, that's in Afghanistan. To this day he's never had a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;hearing. …&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obama:&lt;/strong&gt; Look, the -- I'm very proud of my vice presidential selection, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Joe Biden, who's the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. And as he  explains and as John well knows, the issues of Afghanistan, the issues of Iraq, critical issues like that don't go through my subcommittee because they're done as a committee as a whole.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;As we've already &lt;a href="http://%20http//www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_obama_chair_a_senate_subcommittee_that.html"&gt;reported&lt;/a&gt; Obama's subcommittee on Afghanistan does have jurisdiction over NATO, which is supplying about half of the troops in Afghanistan. His subcommittee does not have jurisdiction over Afghanistan proper.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Getting the Dates Wrong&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We also caught McCain getting his congressional history a little wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;McCain:&lt;/strong&gt; Back in 1983, when I was a brand-new United States congressman,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;the one -- the person I admired the most and still admire the most, Ronald&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;Reagan, wanted to send Marines into Lebanon. And I saw that, and I saw the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;situation, and I stood up, and I voted against that because I was afraid&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;that they couldn't make peace in a place where 300 or 400 or several&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;hundred Marines would make a difference. Tragically, I was right: Nearly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:100%;"&gt;300 Marines lost their lives in the bombing of the barracks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;This isn’t quite right. Marines were &lt;a href="http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AMH/XX/MidEast/Lebanon-1982-1984/USMC-Lebanon82/USMC-Lebanon82-A.html"&gt;initially deployed&lt;/a&gt; to Lebanon in August 1982. McCain, however, was not elected to the U.S. House until November 1982, more than three months after Marines had already landed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCain is referring to a 1983 vote to invoke the War Powers Act. That &lt;a href="http://www.fas.org/man/crs/RS20775.pdf"&gt;bill&lt;/a&gt;, which Ronald Reagan signed into law on October 12, 1983, authorized an 18-month deployment for the Marines. On October 13, a suicide bomber destroyed the Marine barracks in Beirut. McCain did in fact break with most Republicans to vote against the bill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;–by Brooks Jackson, Lori Robertson, Justin Bank, Jess Henig, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Emi Kolawole &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt; and &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Joe Miller&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article_section_header"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Sources&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Courier New;"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://www.governmentexecutive.com/pdfs/061808cd1.pdf"&gt;Statement Regarding the Bid Protest Decision Resolving the Aerial Refueling Tanker Protest by The Boeing Company&lt;/a&gt;" Government Accountability Office. 18 June 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isikoff, Michael, "&lt;a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/142658"&gt;McCain’s Boeing Battle Boomerangs&lt;/a&gt;," Newsweek. 30 June 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Laurent, Lionel, "&lt;a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/04/john-mccain-boeing-face-markets-cx_ll_0304autofacescan04.html"&gt;Boeing Boomerangs on McCain&lt;/a&gt;," Forbers Magazine. 4 March 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wayne, Leslie, "&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/business/19tanker.html?partner=rssnyt"&gt;Audit Says Tanker Deal Is Flawed&lt;/a&gt;," New York Times. 19 June 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Courier New;"&gt;Tax Policy Center. "&lt;a href="http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/PDF/individual_rates.pdf"&gt;Individual Income Tax Brackets, 1945 - 2008.&lt;/a&gt;" 4 November 2007. Tax Policy Center, 7 July 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Courier New;font-size:85%;"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_a.htm"&gt;U.S. Imports by Country of Origin&lt;/a&gt;." U.S. Energy Information Administration, accessed 5 Sept. 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;a href="http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_spt_s1_d.htm"&gt;Spot Prices, Crude Oil in Dollars per Barrel&lt;/a&gt;." U.S. Energy Information Administration, accessed 5 Sept. 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Courier New;"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s.00970:"&gt;S. 970: Iran Counter-Proliferation Act of 2007.&lt;/a&gt;" 8 April 2008.&lt;br /&gt; Thomas.gov. 2 June 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&amp;amp;docid=f:h1585enr.txt.pdf"&gt;Sec. 1538 of H.R. 1585&lt;/a&gt;." National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008. Thomas.gov. 2 June 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;U.S. Senate. "&lt;a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00349#position"&gt;Roll Call Vote on Senate Amendment 3017.&lt;/a&gt;" 26 Sept. 2007. U.S. Senate: Legislation and Records. 2 June 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Grimmett, Richard F. "&lt;a href="http://www.fas.org/man/crs/RS20775.pdf"&gt;Congressional Use of Funding Cutoffs Since 1970 Involving U.S. Military Forces and Overseas Deployments.&lt;/a&gt;" Congressional Research Service. 10 January 2001.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Daggett, Stephen. &lt;a href="http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/108054.pdf"&gt;Costs of Major U.S. Wars&lt;/a&gt;. 24 Jul. 2008. Congressional Research Service.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Adair, Bill. &lt;a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/367/"&gt;Obama "suggested bombing Pakistan"&lt;/a&gt;. Politifact.com.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/Fact_Sheet_Defense_FINAL.pdf"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barack Obama and Joe Biden on Defense Issues&lt;/a&gt;. Obama for America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/EnergyFactSheet.pdf"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barack Obama's Plan to Make America A Global Energy Leader&lt;/a&gt;. Obama for America.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-2546778899267026467?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/2546778899267026467/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=2546778899267026467' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2546778899267026467'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2546778899267026467'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/09/video-debatein-case-you-missed-it-plus.html' title='Video:  The debate...in case you missed it (Plus Factcheck info)'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-3395410617851964119</id><published>2008-09-26T14:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-26T14:16:46.066-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Factchecking the Debate</title><content type='html'>My friend &lt;a href="http://mattwilson.wordpress.com/"&gt;Matt Wilson&lt;/a&gt; and I have been joking for a few days about how we wish there was a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_Up_Video"&gt;VH1-style Pop-Up Video&lt;/a&gt; feature for the presidential debate.  While it won't pop up on your tv screen, it looks like something close will be a reality tonight.  According to an &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/factcheckorgs_debate_coverage.html"&gt;announcement&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org"&gt;www.factcheck.org&lt;/a&gt; , they will be factchecking live at their site, "&lt;a href="http://wire.factcheck.org/"&gt;The FactCheck Wire&lt;/a&gt;" during the debate.  Thank you factcheck.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's this weeks video update:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;embed src="http://blip.tv/play/4DrPvB6Ho0E" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="396" width="549"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-3395410617851964119?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/3395410617851964119/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=3395410617851964119' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/3395410617851964119'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/3395410617851964119'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/09/factchecking-debate.html' title='Factchecking the Debate'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-2750732980792477463</id><published>2008-09-05T15:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-05T16:17:13.502-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Faith and Politics...plus a factchecker video</title><content type='html'>In terms of politics, I consider myself non-partisan.  Because of my position as a preaching minister, I try to keep pretty quiet about which candidates I support, etc. as a matter of personal conviction.  You will notice that my last few posts have been somewhat political in nature, and that several items in the rss feed in my sidebar are political in nature.  I believe that it is a perfectly legitimate option to not participate in politics as a matter of Christian conviction (allegiance to the Kingdom of God rather than the Kingdoms of men).  However, I also think it is a perfectly legitimate option for a Christian to involve themselves in politics, provided that they remember that their first allegiance is to the Kingdom of God.  In this case, ones political convictions will be informed by their faith convictions...and these convictions will vary (and historically have varied) from believer to believer.  In general, I think that this should be expected and provides a wonderful opportunity for believers to learn from each other.  On the other hand, what I've noticed lately is that many seem to be letting their politics inform their faith (on both sides of the aisle)...and that their political positions are not even theirs, but rather some media personalities who produce what can only be rightly called propaganda.  Hint:  if your favorite personality is always sure to include Obama's middle name at every mention of him, OR if they question John McCain's service in the military and experience as a prisoner of war...it's propaganda.  Sincerely, I implore you...if you are a Christian who chooses to involve yourself in the political process...PLEASE quit buying propaganda from either side wholesale.  PLEASE check non-partisan sources.  PLEASE make sure that you aren't being used by either political party in a power grab.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I &lt;a href="http://www.twitter.com/"&gt;twitter&lt;/a&gt;ed about &lt;a href="http://www.factcheck.org/"&gt;www.factcheck.org&lt;/a&gt; earlier in the week.  I also recommend &lt;a href="http://www.politifact.com/"&gt;www.politifact.com&lt;/a&gt; . These are non-partisan sources who check the claims from both sides against the facts.  They are free and easily accessible resources.  Below I'm posting a video from factcheck dealing with claims made at both conventions.   I sincerely hope you find it helpful.&lt;br /&gt;AE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;embed src="http://blip.tv/play/4DrL5g2Ho0E" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="396" width="549"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-2750732980792477463?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/2750732980792477463/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=2750732980792477463' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2750732980792477463'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/2750732980792477463'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/09/faith-and-politicsplus-factchecker.html' title='Faith and Politics...plus a factchecker video'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-885236465747687632</id><published>2008-09-04T21:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-04T21:20:37.070-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Matthew Paul Turner's Blog Tour (Free book, anyone?)</title><content type='html'>Posted for my friend, &lt;a href="http://www.jesusneedsnewpr.com"&gt;Matthew Paul Turner&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you have an established personal blog? If you do, you may be eligible to join the blog tour for Matthew Paul Turner's new book, "churched". As an approved blog reviewer, you'll receive a free, advance copy of the book and a giveaway copy! To submit your blog for consideration, emailejohnson@randomhouse.com by September 15, 2008. Include your name, street address, and a link to your blog. A limited number of books are available, so email now! The blog tour will take place the week of October 13-17.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-885236465747687632?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/885236465747687632/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=885236465747687632' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/885236465747687632'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/885236465747687632'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/09/matthew-paul-turners-blog-tour-free.html' title='Matthew Paul Turner&apos;s Blog Tour (Free book, anyone?)'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6777715.post-1694656526180714870</id><published>2008-08-25T22:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-08-25T22:18:45.025-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Donald Miller's Prayer at the DNC</title><content type='html'>&lt;center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/b79m3fJfmuA&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/b79m3fJfmuA&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the transcript for &lt;a href="http://www.donaldmillerwords.com"&gt;Miller&lt;/a&gt;'s prayer:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;"Father God, &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;This week, as the world looks on, help the leaders in this room create a civil dialogue about our future.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;We need you, God, as individuals and also as a nation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;We need you to protect us from our enemies, but also from ourselves, because we are easily tempted toward apathy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Give us a passion to advance opportunities for the least of these, for widows and orphans, for single moms and children whose fathers have left.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Give us the eyes to see them, and the ears to hear them, and hands willing to serve them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Help us serve people, not just causes. And stand up to specific injustices rather than vague notions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Give those in this room who have power, along with those who will meet next week, the courage to work together to finally provide health care to those who don’t have any, and a living wage so families can thrive rather than struggle.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Hep us figure out how to pay teachers what they deserve and give children an equal opportunity to get a college education.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Help us figure out the balance between economic opportunity and corporate gluttony.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;We have tried to solve these problems ourselves but they are still there. We need your help.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Father, will you restore our moral standing in the world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;A lot of people don’t like us but that’s because they don’t know the heart of the average American.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Will you give us favor and forgiveness, along with our allies around the world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Help us be an example of humility and strength once again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Lastly, father, unify us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Even in our diversity help us see how much we have in common.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;And unify us not just in our ideas and in our sentiments—but in our actions, as we look around and figure out something we can do to help create an America even greater than the one we have come to cherish.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;God we know that you are good.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Thank you for blessing us in so many ways as Americans.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;I make these requests in the name of your son, Jesus, who gave his own life against the forces of injustice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Let Him be our example.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;Amen."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;Thoughts?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left; font-style: italic;"&gt;AE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6777715-1694656526180714870?l=adamellis.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/feeds/1694656526180714870/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6777715&amp;postID=1694656526180714870' title='19 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/1694656526180714870'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6777715/posts/default/1694656526180714870'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://adamellis.blogspot.com/2008/08/donald-millers-prayer-at-dnc.html' title='Donald Miller&apos;s Prayer at the DNC'/><author><name>Adam</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03708322695991246818</uri><email>adamellis76@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04782185553036682078'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>19</thr:total></entry></feed>